90D + 12mm zero D Recommendation

[wildwoodphoto]

Hi all,

I have a Canon 90D as a backup camera for shooting real estate (main body is a 5D MkIV). I use a 16-35 lens.

Due to the crop sensor on the 90D, the FOV is frustrating, so I want to try and increase this and am thinking about a 12mm zero distortion lens (e.g. a Laowa).

Has anyone tried this and what were the results?

[shadowsports]

Greetings,

Most obvious question.  Why not shoot with the 16~35 on the 5D4.  You are trading one problem for another.  

Use this calculator (Canon)

Laowa 12mm FOV 122*

Canon 16-35 FOV 112*

The moment you put either on a APS-C body, the FOV equivalent becomes 19.2mm.  Personally, I feel there is a fine line when shooting home interiors for real estate.  Small rooms are just that, small.  How wide is too wide?  The Laowa is not perfect, "close-to-zero optical distortion" so inevitably post processing is going to be needed to correct images shot under less than ideal conditions.  I know what agents have to go through.  Homes with no drapes, blown out or inadequate lighting, etc.  If you are going to shoot with the Laowa, I would do it on your 5D4 if you want the 122* FOV.  

If shooting on the 90D is mandatory, you can get 107* using Canon's 10~18 or 10~22.  What are you using for post production?  I don't know about Lr, but DxO has a dedicated application called Viewpoint which corrects geometry.  If you use Canon lenses DPP supports geometry correction.  Hope this provides some additional perspective and options.

[ebiggs1]

Boy before I would consider the Laowa lens I would simply check out and buy the old standby EF-S 18-55mm f/4-5.6 IS STM.

Plus, if I were you I would also look at Rokinon 14mm F2.8 ED AS IF UMC, too. The Rokinon is super sharp! And at a third of the cost.

[MikeSowsun]

I think the Canon EF-S 10-18mm STM would be great for interior photos on a 90D. It is reasonably priced, and is pretty sharp with very little distortion. Plus, it would be even wider than the Laowa 12mm. 

[shadowsports]

Ernie,

All true.  I'm not sure if the 18~55 will offer the FOV he desires?  I have the Rokinon 12mm.  I thought you have the 14mm?  Didn't I see some pics from you on B&H's website?  The 12mm Rokinon does 180* and would require geometry correction for real estate. 

[deebatman316]

I do agree with Rick the EF-S 18-55mm lens lineup is simply NOT wide enough for real estate work. The EF-S 10-18mm F/4.5-5.6 IS STM would be a better choice for this application. I can't say how good the the EF-S 10-18mm F/4.5-5.6 IS STM lens is because I've never owned or used this lens before. I used to own the EF-S 10-22mm F/3.5-4.5 USM lens and it was plenty wide enough. But the EF-S 10-22mm F/3.5-4.5 USM comes with a price tag though because the lens has a Ring Type USM AF motor. I have since donated this lens to a friend who has an APS-C camera. I replaced this lens with the EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM lens when I went Full Frame.

-Demetrius

Current Gear: EOS 5D Mark IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM, EF 70-200mm F/2.8L IS III USM, 470EX-AI & 600EX II-RT

Retired Gear: EOS 40D & Sigma 17-50mm F/2.8 EX DC OS HSM

[ebiggs1]

Rick,

The thing you need to remember is this EF-S 18-55mm f/4-5.6 IS STM will do 90% of what is needed for real estate photography. Yes, likely, there will be some times where it isn't wide enough. It is a readily available lens that will offer more versatile use besides real estate work. The Rokinon 14mm F2.8 ED AS IF UMC is a fantastic inexpensive lens that could fill that gap when needed. I was keeping the mention of distortion in mind since the OP mentioned the Laowa. I also like Mike's suggestion of the Canon EF-S 10-18mm STM 

My mother's side aunt and uncle were real estate agents and I did work for them way back in the dark ages in Rockville with Wilma and Fred and Bam-bam. The fact is you don't need an UWA all the time. Times you will however. I had my Argus C3, a Kodak Retina IIIC and later a Canon F1n and a 28mm f2.8 lens.

Give me a good tripod and Photoshop and I could do it all with a 50mil. 😁

[ebiggs1]

BTW, both the Argus C3, a Kodak Retina IIIC had 35mm lens adapters for the standard 50mm lens.

[ebiggs1]

"...  the EF-S 18-55mm lens lineup is simply NOT wide enough for real estate work."

Done a lot of real estate work have you? It's probably best to comment on stuff you have actually done.

[deebatman316]

I've done a little real estate photography. My dad was a real estate agent. He and I mainly used the EF-S 10-22mm F/3.5-4.5 USM lens and the EOS 40D together. That worked well for us. 

-Demetrius

Current Gear: EOS 5D Mark IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM, EF 70-200mm F/2.8L IS III USM, 470EX-AI & 600EX II-RT

Retired Gear: EOS 40D & Sigma 17-50mm F/2.8 EX DC OS HSM