24-105 Mark II vs 24-70 F2.8L Mark I?

[marco79]

Hello Canon Forum People

here my post to ask an opinion about something that hasn't been mentioned in any review, forum or discussion. 

I am a happy owner of a 24-70 F2.8 (mark I) since many years. has been a gr8 companion in combination with the 70-200 F2.8

Although with years i am getting tired to bring both lenses for "not assignment trips" and i though i could use a new 24-105 instead. 

question: how better, or worse, is the 24-105 mark II compared with the '10 year's old' 24-70 f2.8 mark I in terms of 1)overall sharpness 2)color rend 3)edge distortion?

I didn't have time to test the 24-105 II properly but i believe that a 2016 lens could/should be equal or even better than a 10 year's old lens, even though the 24-70 was/is top range lens

any thoughts about this will be very much appreciated

regards

Marco

[RobertTheFat]

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@marco79 wrote:

Hello Canon Forum People

here my post to ask an opinion about something that hasn't been mentioned in any review, forum or discussion. 

I am a happy owner of a 24-70 F2.8 (mark I) since many years. has been a gr8 companion in combination with the 70-200 F2.8

Although with years i am getting tired to bring both lenses for "not assignment trips" and i though i could use a new 24-105 instead. 

question: how better, or worse, is the 24-105 mark II compared with the '10 year's old' 24-70 f2.8 mark I in terms of 1)overall sharpness 2)color rend 3)edge distortion?

I didn't have time to test the 24-105 II properly but i believe that a 2016 lens could/should be equal or even better than a 10 year's old lens, even though the 24-70 was/is top range lens

any thoughts about this will be very much appreciated

regards

Marco

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Aside from their different zoom ranges, the most conspicuous differences are that the 24-105 has IS and the 24-70 is one stop faster. So as with most such choices, it depends on what your requirements are.

[ebiggs1]

"Although with years i am getting tired to bring both lenses ..."

The question is not what the better IQ of either lens is but adding an additional 35mm to one lens is going to eliminate the need for the 70-200mm?  In your dreams it will.  If your jobs required the use of a 200mm lens, 105mm won't cut it.

Either that or I don't understand your logic.  However, to answer your query, the new 24-105mm f4L IS II is a good replacement for you older 24-70mm f2.8L.  It will perform better all around.

[marco79]

Hi ebiggs1

thanks for your answer. some clarification:

1) I already own both lenses (24-70 Mark I and 24-105 Mark II) so looking to sell one lens

2) for "no assignmet" trips i believe 105mm are just enough to catch most situations

3) for me in a proper kit the 70-200 is a must, either if is for documentary, theatre or dance shoot

my question: 

I would like to know about the overall IQ and sharpness if the 24-105 Mark II is good as 24-70 Mark I or is even better?

thanks

Marco

[marco79]

Thanks Robert, 

i been studying Photography for many years but in good lens review i see very accurate graphs and charts about sharpness, distortion, etc. 

Basically i own already both lenses and i am willing to give one away.

my question is:

is the 24-105 Mark II comparable or even better to he 24-70 Mark I in terms of overall IQ, and sharpness?

thanks

Marco

[RobertTheFat]

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@marco79 wrote:

Thanks Robert, 

i been studying Photography for many years but in good lens review i see very accurate graphs and charts about sharpness, distortion, etc. 

Basically i own already both lenses and i am willing to give one away.

my question is:

is the 24-105 Mark II comparable or even better to he 24-70 Mark I in terms of overall IQ, and sharpness?

thanks

Marco

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Sure it is, but the 24-70 is still one stop faster. How much that matters to you is something you have to decide. I have the 24-70 Mk II and the 24-105 Mk I. I like them both, but use them somewhat differently. Neither is a substitute for the 70-200 in my world. I can't tell you whether it is in any subset of yours.

[Waddizzle]

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@marco79 wrote:

Hi ebiggs1

thanks for your answer. some clarification:

1) I already own both lenses (24-70 Mark I and 24-105 Mark II) so looking to sell one lens

2) for "no assignmet" trips i believe 105mm are just enough to catch most situations

3) for me in a proper kit the 70-200 is a must, either if is for documentary, theatre or dance shoot

my question: 

I would like to know about the overall IQ and sharpness if the 24-105 Mark II is good as 24-70 Mark I or is even better?

thanks

Marco

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If you already own both lenses, why are you on the internet asking people which one is better?  Get out there, and take some comparison shots.  That’s the best way to answer your question.  One is faster.  One is longer.  No one can really tell you which lens is best for you and your circumstances.  Experience will answer the question.

[ebiggs1]

Nope ... now you confused me even more.

The original 24-70 f2.8L was/is not all that sharp.  I mean it is a good lens.  I used one for years and years.  But the Mk II is lightyears better.  I do not own the 24-105mm f4 Mk II but I have played with one.  It is darn good, too.

Actually I had the EF 28-70mm f/2.8 USM Lens and I thought it was sharper than its replacement by the 24-70mm f2.8L Mk I.  But that's another topic.  BTW, there is no such thing as the Mk I.  It is just the first version of the 24-70mm.

If you want the best as good as it gets, you want the 24-70mm f2.8L Mk II and the 70-200mm f2.8L Mk II.  That way you don't have to wonder if there is anything out there that is better.  There is not !  End of story.

[marco79]

Yes Waddizzle, you're right. 

I did try it only for 1hr or so the day i received, but couldn't after that and i won't be able till middle november.

DoP: no much difference F2.8 to F4

IQ: for the little test it seems to me they're very similar

Sharpness: that's the major point for me. Is the 24-105 Mark II sharp as the 24-70 Mark I? 

work wise the full stop (2 actually) faster of the 24-70 is definitively a loss.... this means compromises with 24-105 

I am looking for technical comparition here, mostly about overall IQ and sharpness then yes, i will figured out myself what lens is most suitable for what i do

the 24-70 has been my best bet for many years and i may ended up keeping both lenses

thanks

Marco

[AllenP]

I've seen in several posts folks refer to "...one stop faster." as RobertTheFat did in this discussion.  Could someone explain that to me?