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I hear ya. I've asked for the serial number to double check, it's starting to look risky.

well i know but i found a deal for the r5 that fits just beyond my estimated budget.

Thanks lots of great info here including going to BestBuy. I've come across a R5 for sale and thought that would be a good full frame solution. Do you have an opinion on the R5?

Ok, so digging a little deeper the price i was looking at was not for the R but for the RP. It's not what I'm looking for. Instead the R7 seems to fit the bill except that's it's not a full frame instead it's a crop frame but has APS-C format and 32 ...

Thanks. The R kit i found is $1,200 and that matches my price point. I understand a better lens would be better as f4 may not be the quickest. I believe I would need an adapter to fit my other lens on the R so I'll have to consider that cost.