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Images with an Obsolete Camera

Tronhard
Elite
Elite

My highly respected colleague, Rick made mention in another thread from someone who had paid a minimal sum for of a Rebel XT -  to the effect: "In all honesty, its time to retire that device.  6.3MP.  Your phone likely does more than it can.  Much has happened with digital imaging in the last 20+ years."

Let me say off the bat that I don't disagree with Rick at all about the age and sophistication of the camera in question.  I jokingly responded that having an almost brand-new 400D (Rebel Xti) of similar vintage that I would be at a loss to know what to do - it's just been sitting quietly in its box.

However, that got me wondering...  What if I put a decent EF lens on the thing and challenge it to take the same kinds of animal portraits that I normally do with my R5 and R6 variant units?  How would it fare?  Well, the only way to find out was to take it, and my EF 100-400L MkII lens to check it out.  Here are the results.

As always, all images hand-held, available light, spot focus centred in Servo Mode, spot metering.  Brought into PS for lens corrections, cropping to taste, exposure compensation and downsized.  Nothing to do with layers or image manipulation.

EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/5.6, 1/160sec, ISO-400EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/5.6, 1/160sec, ISO-400  EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/6.3, 1/125sec, ISO-400EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/6.3, 1/125sec, ISO-400EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@220mm, f/6.3, 1/200sec, ISO-400EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@220mm, f/6.3, 1/200sec, ISO-400  EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/5.6, 1/1250sec, ISO-400EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/5.6, 1/1250sec, ISO-400
5c5fc171-1e20-40b1-bfb1-e29347c3a9dc.jpgEOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/5.6, 1/80sec, ISO-400EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/5.6, 1/80sec, ISO-400 
This last pair of images is of a minuscule insect inside the enclosure of an Auckland Elegant Green Gecko that I was going to photograph.  It was in dim light behind some thick grungy glass.  I realized there was absolute tiny insect on a leaf, and that took my attentions.

 EOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/5.6, 1/80sec, ISO-400 -- 100%cropEOS 400D, EF 100-400LII@400mm, f/5.6, 1/80sec, ISO-400 -- 100%crop 

So, what do YOU think?

 


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is not what they hold in their hand, it's what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris
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normadel
Authority
Authority

6 megapixel XT is too old to take good pictures. DSLRs are obsolete. Mirrorless cameras are "better" and anyone who is hanging onto a DSLR or "old" camera is a fool.  The "more megapixels" race is a lot of garbage. 

This is all very tiring. And destructive to getting people into photography. 

The XT photos are beautiful, Trevor. So are photos I take with my 5-megapixel Canon Powershot G5. Viewed on a monitor or printed in 4x6 or 8.5x11, the pixels aren't seen at anything like how you'd view them normally.

 

I must admit I have never chased MP for themselves.  For me, it's generally been improvements in dynamic range (usually not a feature of more MP density), and focusing precision.  For me, the big improvements for the MILCs were the face and eye tracking, the ability to directly see exposure before one shoots and the power of the processors.
It is for those characteristics, plus a massive focus on real-time connectivity that has always been the hallmark of the 1 series, not MP capacity.    Sure, I have the 5DsR at 52MP, and R5 at 45MP, but those do not form the balance of my gear - I use the 80D (to some extent), and the R6 units far more - which, in modern terms sport a modest maximum capacity at 24MP.

All this needs to be taken into the context of what one produces (about which I am always commenting), but it is for either cropping, or printing large and detailed prints where large MP cameras come into their own.  The results for landscape and architectural work are often seen in that context.

I have done a reasonably wide range of photography - including (but not limited to) portrait, corporate, scenic, travel, industrial, but these days I would describe myself as an animal portrait photographer, who produces mainly for digital display.  As such, my need for high MP sensors is very limited.   

One of the things I really notice with folks asking for advice - by far the dominant number are those who talk about camera bodies and rarely mention lenses until prompted. Even then it is clear from their often imprecise descriptions that they underrate the significance of optics.  To me, lenses have by far the longer-term investment value.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is not what they hold in their hand, it's what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

I'll hang on to my T7. I have priced new and used mirrorless cameras plus lenses and they are out of my price range. I could spring for an EF/RF adapter but I have other things on the list as groceries.  I'll buy one when I win the lottery. Or my wife gets a second job, whichever occurs first.

John
Canon EOS T7; EF-S 18-55mm IS; EF 28-135mm IS; EF 75-300mm; Sigma 150-600mm DG

Kngawolf
Apprentice

Fantastic display of how spoiled we have become wanting more MP and better cameras when these results can still be obtained by and "obsolete" unit

shadowsports
Legend
Legend

Beautiful shots Trevor.  The image quality is certainly above average.  They showcases your talents of course 🤩.  Also the importance of good glass, and how one's lenses can impact their photography.

The Rebel XT and 400D (XTi) were only 4 years apart.  Canon was already on the way to its market dominance. 🧨

I'd have a hard time going back to 6.3 or 10MP,  it's as you've always stated, what do you intend to do with the output.  Many mobile devices are at 50MP now.  Canon has always been systematic in what they deliver.  Sure we all want more lenses. 📸  With new AI, I think Canon's R52 and R1 are poised to do well. 

~Rick
Bay Area - CA


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