Do You Keep a Camera or Lens for the Feel of It?
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06-10-2024 05:16 PM - edited 06-13-2024 04:12 PM
There have been a couple of cameras that have long since been bypassed by technology. The first of these was the EOS 60D, of which I had 3 examples and I just loved the feel of the body, layout of the controls and the balance in my hands. I kept them longer than I probably should have, but instead retained the 80D, for the same reasons, even after selling the 90D, which I never quite warmed to - the rear control wheel was smaller and harder to turn, and TBH I just felt like 32MP was too much for the sensor size. I still have the 80D, and use it primarily with the EF-S 18-135 IS USM, another piece of kit that I like for the feel - and it's a good optic.
The other body that seems to have hung around in my kit is the 5DsR, which I like for its sensor capacity, cancelled AA filter and just the sound of the shutter is awesome. Along with that the brilliant EF 70-300L lens - in part because of the time when I was using it, but also the balance and it IS a great optic. I use it on my MILCs via the EF-RF adapter and it does a sterling job.
So, technical specs aside, do you have gear that somehow hangs around because you just LIKE the nature of it?
cheers, TREVOR
The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris
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06-10-2024 09:59 PM
You are saying "bypassed by technology" as if a 60D or 5DsR don't work anymore. Shame on you!
My cameras are Rebel T1i, 50D, 60D, 7D and 6D. The T1i and 50D were acquired from people who thought they were obsolete. The 7D and 6D were purchased from a dealer in the last year. Only the 60D was bought new.
They all function perfectly and take beautiful, if not amazing, photos. Bypassed by technology? Who cares? Not me. I have no need for "new technology" for its own sake. And I have no desire to "upgrade" to mirrorless, either.
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06-10-2024 11:27 PM - edited 06-10-2024 11:44 PM
Presently, I shoot a technically obsolete Rebel T7 (bought new) with a collection of lenses that are either EF or EF-S lenses - most of which were bought used or refurbished at very attractive prices. I don't think any of the items I own are currently in production and some have been out of production for quite a while.
The last time I owned an EOS camera was almost 20 years ago when I shot film. I took a long hiatus for a number of reason before I thought I'd casually get the Rebel with kit lens 1.5 years ago and learn about digital photography.
I really like the way the Rebel feels in my hands. Most of the basic controls are intuitive or similar to my EOS film camera and I'm still learning about the camera's controls, features and functions as well as some advanced "tricks" that I learn about from reading this and other forums. I'm amazed that the T7 has a 24mp sensor, is solid/well built, feature rich and advanced for an entry level camera. The built in flash comes in handier than I would thought it would. It makes my head hurt to think of the many features and functions in even simpler current mirrorless cameras. There are features that I wish my camera had, but I'll put them on the list and and check them off if I ever upgrade.
My favorite lens is the EF 85mm f1.8 USM. I had one in my film days and it was favorite lens back then as well. When I mount that lens on the T7, it feels great in my hands, is tack sharp, focuses precisely, quickly and quietly and the combination produces very nice results. In fact, I'm pleased with the results I've achieved with each of the lenses I own when I mount them on the T7. When I see a good shot by someone else on this or another forum I challenge myself to try and emulate it within the limitations of my equipment (no super-tele or tele-zoom yet, but I did get a macro.)
At present, I see myself using the T7 for quite a while until either me or the camera quit!

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06-11-2024 08:16 AM
Yes. And nostalgia. My Minolta lens is nearly 50 years old.
I still use my EOS 80D occasionally and use EF-S 18-135 IS USM on both EOS 80D annd EOS R5. I still have my EOS Rebel T1i (EOS 500D) and occasionally get it out and charge the battery. Not so long ago I connected it by USB to my computer in an attempt to answer a file transfer question.
Minolta Lens made in Japan MC ROKKOR-X PG 1:1.4 f=50mm, with Urth adapter for use on Canon, depth composite made on July 6, 2023
Limestone Hall, Lexington, KY, July 8, 2021 ; Minolta MC ROKKOR-X PG 1:1.4 f=50mm ; F/8 ; 1/800 EOS R5
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06-11-2024 01:10 PM
I waited to purchase my 5Ds until after it was discontinued and the mirrorless push was at full-speed. It's still a fantastic camera and I was able to purchase it, brand new in-box, at a dramatic discount (and I DO mean dramatic!) from a Canon retailer who was clearing out discontinued inventory. I don't consider the technology to be "bypassed" but, then again, I don't really need to be at the leading edge of technology (or fashion!).
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06-11-2024 07:09 PM
I have a very old 1960's Kodak Ratina C that I have because I like the style of it.
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06-13-2024 07:49 AM
Agreed.
There are times when you use a piece of equipment and immediately become akin to. Typically, with cameras and lenses there are associations and emotions made (the research, the saving up of money, the sheer gear lust). Once purchased/acquired, an affinity and deep bond develops during which time every aspect is enjoyed and relished. Good or bad, I too stick with my x2 beloved 40D bodies both gripped. Also, I hang onto my EF-S 10-22mm lens. I recently did a wandering shoot with my 7d11(gripped) and EF-S 10-22mm exclusively (with a circular polariser attached). Awesome colour rendition of waterfall captures. I will never sell-on my preferred older gear. Just love the tactile feel of all my kit --> ef 100mm f/2.8 USM macro; ef 24mm f/1.8; 50mm f/1.8, ef-s 10-22mm. As for my ef-s 18-55 & ef-s 50-250mm, well in today's market, i have to pay to give them away. I am not too fond of these lenses tbh.
EF:- 100mm f/2.8 macro, 50mm f/1.8, 24mm f/2.8
EF-s:- 55-250mm, 10-22mm, 18-55mm
Flashes:- x4 580exii, MT-24ex, Godox AD300Pro
Triggers:- x5 PW TT5s & x2 PW TT1s & x3 Godox X-Pro
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06-13-2024 09:57 AM
Oh yeah, I neglected to mention my film cameras . . . .A-1, two AE-1 Programs, EF, F-1, two EOS Elan IIes. Film was "obsoleted", umm, let's see, when the first digital cameras happened. They became my "collection". Look what happened there. I even belong to a film photography club.
Careful what you call "out-of-date" and "obsolete"!!
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06-13-2024 03:30 PM - edited 06-13-2024 04:42 PM
I feel no shame at all, actually, and considering I have just started the thread extolling the virtue of keeping older gear, I am surprised by your post. 🤔 🙂
I never suggested that a 60D or 5DsR (which, BTW, I still own) don't work any more, those are your interpretation and your words, not mine. I think it is fine for you to make a choice to stick to these older cameras exclusively, I wish you well with that.
If those familiar with my posts will be aware that I shoot quite a bit with older model cameras to make exactly the point that photography is more about technique than technology, and even use cameras I deliberately purchased for their age - specifically the D30 (2000) and D60 (2002) - and I still have, and occasionally shoot with an original G1 and a Canon 400D (Rebel Xti). Dimly-lit pump house D30, EF 17-40L@17mm, f/5.6, 1/8sec, ISO-400, and:
Many a Good Tune Played on an Old Fiddle - Canon Community
They, and my other DSLRs took absolutely fine photos' still perform to spec, and were so lovingly cared for they were described by the store that sold them on behalf as 'pristine'. When I did so, the lot consisted of 15 bodies alone, and if you care to check my profile that is where you will find my gear list as it is still far too long to put on as a signature. Having just gone through the process of selling a dead friend's gear for his widow, it was a process I didn't want to leave to my family, who know nothing about photography and I could use the funds to support my own life - these bodies and the lenses I sold returned over $22k to me to invest in my retirement.
What I am saying is that time and the market had moved on: you can't buy a new or refurb 60D, or even get support for it here in NZ - like it or not, things have changed and, with a huge collection of gear and, after a heart attack, I did not want to leave that as a mess for my niece to sort out when I die, so I started cleaning house - and it was an agonizing series of decisions. It was better to sell it than let it get to the point it had no value at all. However, given the move by Canon away from DSLRs, I needed to make choices as I generally downsized.
The gear has to be considered in the context of what, how and for what purpose one is photographing. As a wildlife shooter I have seen the benefit of a whole new range of lenses that demand a change in bodies from DSLRs to MILCs to gain serious benefits in performance, and I'm fine with that. In the end, a camera is a tool and one needs the right tool for the job. In other contexts from wildlife, while I am retired, I still shoot as a volunteer for clients, particularly a local university to which I have strong ties, and their needs and expectations are for commercial-quality work.
So, I respect your stout defense of the gear, and I am happy for you. But you are not me, or I suspect most photographers, which is why there is an actual camera market.
Perhaps you would care to consider the following essay I wrote on my most beloved camera, which is not a Canon: I am sharing it from my MS OneDrive:
How I Fell in Love with the Nikon Df, and In Praise of Shadows.
cheers, TREVOR
The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris
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06-13-2024 03:48 PM - edited 06-13-2024 03:51 PM
You are really sounding quite defensive and seem to have a chip on your shoulder here, and you need to get over that For a start, I didn't use either words "out-of-date" or "obsolete", those are your inventions, so please don't put word into my mouth and then criticize me for them. If others have and upset you that is not my responsibility. This is disingenuous and does neither of us justice. You have completely turned around a thread dedicated to celebrating keeping older gear into something quite negative. That is quite regrettable.
The fact is that technology has changed and the mainstream market has moved on to a new platform - you don't have to use them and that is absolutely your choice. Photography manufacturers will continue to sell product as long as there is a viable market, then they stop. That's the way of the world.
I'm glad you too have retained your film cameras: FWIW, I still have a Nikon F3 and Canon A-1 and film for them. I welcome that several brands of film are now returning and the SLR market is showing resurgence and film as a medium has it's own special characteristics. This is a good thing! I gather at least one camera maker is considering a new film camera and I am absolutely happy about that too.
cheers, TREVOR
The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris
