Thinking about the EOS R

[PetterJhon]

With all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how the Sony a7III is so much better than the canon offering, my question is, wouldn't you still be better off getting the canon R to be able to use native glass and lenses like the 28-70 f2. Are those lenses possible on the sony mount? Canon glass always seems better than the competition and as everyone in any photography forum points out glass matters much more than the camera body.

Also as a landscape photographer the variable neutral density filter would encourage me to shoot with EF lenses and that adapter for some time. Besides this camera seems like a slight upgrade to the 5D at a price around or less than what the 5D sells for used.

Canon could have done more, and probably should have but they seem to rely on selling their system through their lenses rather than camera specs

[shadowsports]

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@PetterJhon wrote:

With all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how the Sony a7III is so much better than the canon offering, my question is, wouldn't you still be better off getting the canon R to be able to use native glass and lenses like the 28-70 f2. Are those lenses possible on the sony mount? Canon glass always seems better than the competition and as everyone in any photography forum points out glass matters much more than the camera body.

Also as a landscape photographer the variable neutral density filter would encourage me to shoot with EF lenses and that adapter for some time. Besides this camera seems like a slight upgrade to the 5D at a price around or less than what the 5D sells for used.

Canon could have done more, and probably should have but they seem to rely on selling their system through their lenses rather than camera specs

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Another bogus post from someone peddling crapware - Mods, please delete this trash.

[RobertTheFat]

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@shadowsports wrote:

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@PetterJhon wrote:

With all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how the Sony a7III is so much better than the canon offering, my question is, wouldn't you still be better off getting the canon R to be able to use native glass and lenses like the 28-70 f2. Are those lenses possible on the sony mount? Canon glass always seems better than the competition and as everyone in any photography forum points out glass matters much more than the camera body.

Also as a landscape photographer the variable neutral density filter would encourage me to shoot with EF lenses and that adapter for some time. Besides this camera seems like a slight upgrade to the 5D at a price around or less than what the 5D sells for used.

Canon could have done more, and probably should have but they seem to rely on selling their system through their lenses rather than camera specs

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Another bogus post from someone peddling crapware - Mods, please delete this trash.

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I don't get that at all. Did you possibly reply to the wrong post?

[Stephen]

Hey, Bob & Shadowsports! I've removed the offending post. I meant to remove it earlier. I'm sorry about that. The user's been banned, too. 

[Waddizzle]

Canon lenses can work on Sony E mount bodies with the correct adapter. Canon lenses work best on Canon bodies, including the newer RF lenses, which cannot be adapted to Sony.

Another issue with Sony mirror less bodies seems to be they have a very strong tendency to collect dirt and dust on the image sensors. Sony is the only brand that is having this type of issue: not Nikon, not Fuji, not anyone.

My best buddy has a Sony A7something and says he cleans his camera before every shoot. He has stopped changing lenses in the field because he does not want to stop mid-shoot to clean his sensor.

[shadowsports]

All of Wadizzles points are valid.

EOS R (only if I had to).  If you can hold out.. I'd wait.  The R and RP are but Canon's first attempts at mirrorless. 

[Maria]

I’ve been tempted and also wondering about this being their first kick at the can but the question is how long before they make the next one?.... rumor has it that they are now working on a pro mirrorless - guessing that means something along the D1, and also working on more R lenses. If that is true it may be a year or two before the next version of the R is out ;(

[Waddizzle]

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@Maria wrote:
I’ve been tempted and also wondering about this being their first kick at the can but the question is how long before they make the next one?.... rumor has it that they are now working on a pro mirrorless - guessing that means something along the D1, and also working on more R lenses. If that is true it may be a year or two before the next version of the R is out ;(

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Canon has had the mirrorless M series of cameras for several years now, but they are all APS-C sensor cameras.  The R series is Canon's first line of full frame mirrorless bodies.  The image quality out of the M bodies and M lenses is very good, and R bodies and RF lenses seem even better.  I have yet to try one.

With an Olympics coming in 2020, I would have expected Canon to have announced a professional grade, full frame mirrorless camera body by now.  Instead, they have announced a 1D Mark III is coming, which almost seems to be a hybrid of DSLR and mirrorless technologies.  The recently announced 90D is a very good camera, which curiously lacks a second card slot.

Canon has recently announced a third R series body, the astrophotography leaning Ra.  I would be surprised to see Canon release a professional R series body in early 2020.  Although this would be in time for the 2020 Olympics, the timing of such a release would miss the 2019 holiday season entirely.  

[shadowsports]

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@Maria wrote:
......may be a year or two before the next version of the R is out ;(

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That could be true.  All that means is another year with my DSLR.  I cannot justify buying a body that can only shoot upt to 560 pics on a single charge with ECO mode turned on.  I've got double that now and no ECO mode.  My screen shutting off every 10 sec would drive me nuts.  Turn it off and have to carry a bunch of extra batteries, no thanks.  They'll figure it out, and then I'll switch.  For the time being, I'm not stepping onto the mirrorless train. 

[Waddizzle]

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@shadowsports wrote:

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@Maria wrote:
......may be a year or two before the next version of the R is out ;(

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That could be true.  All that means is another year with my DSLR.  I cannot justify buying a body that can only shoot upt to 560 pics on a single charge with ECO mode turned on.  I've got double that now and no ECO mode.  My screen shutting off every 10 sec would drive me nuts.  Turn it off and have to carry a bunch of extra batteries, no thanks.  They'll figure it out, and then I'll switch.  For the time being, I'm not stepping onto the mirrorless train. 

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Not sure what you mean regarding the screen shutting off every 10 seconds.  I have image preview disabled, so no image pops up after every shot.  When I call up the menu or info screen they automatically shut off, too.  Do you mean Live View?