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EOS RP photo aren't as sharp the ones from my EOS M50

kingsahibkhan
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Hey i realized that a lot of my RP photos arent as sharp as my M50 at further distances and a lot of times my RP photos are blurry and i never experienced the same with my M50. 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ggc239v1EpPc3rZ9zn2lJ78--hZNbHOf?usp=sharing

The picture at the pier was with RF lenses and as you can see it cannot focus well at all. The other pictures are with a EF 50mm. The clarity of the walking person in with the m50 is just far higher than the people in the RP photo. Please take a look and see if you agree. (zooming in makes the biggest difference.)

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  1. What AF Zones are you using?
  2. What focus mode are you using One Shot, Servo AF or AI Focus?
  3. What mode is the top mode dial set to?
-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

Absolutely Demetrius - it is both smaller and lighter, and the lens configurations are lighter too. 

To give you an idea of how important technique is, I will give the example of this image, taken with the Sigma 150-600c lens, hand-held, using the Canon EOS 5DIV, also a 30MP camera and with no IBIS.
This is the original image:
EOS 5DIV, Sigma 150-600@520mm, f/8, 1/1000sec, ISO-200EOS 5DIV, Sigma 150-600@520mm, f/8, 1/1000sec, ISO-200  The same image, croppedThe same image, cropped

Using the EOS M5, essentially the same as your M50 but configured more for stills also hand-held, and using a slow shutter speed
EOS M5, EF-M 18-150@59mm, f/6.3, 1/40sec, ISO-200EOS M5, EF-M 18-150@59mm, f/6.3, 1/40sec, ISO-200


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

From looking at DPP4, the mode is M, low speed continuous, Servo


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

Yes technique is very important and it will lead to very sharp pictures. Improper settings and techniques will lead to out of focus pictures.

-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

One Shot would be a better in this situation vs Servo AF. The subjects are stationary and not moving. 

-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

The OP has the EOS M50 not the EOS R50. So that camera is much smaller than the RP.

Exactly my point, there is a lot more weight and leverage with a FF camera and a zoom on a telephoto setting compared to a fixed, light lens with short FL on a small, light body.  The M50 was really designed for vloggers, so it lends itself to being used via the LCD as well as EVF.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

The EOS M Series was really designed for content creators. So the lenses were small and compact to begin with. Generally you'll see more camera shake with telephoto lenses or a lens set to a telephoto setting such as 85mm. Most lenses in the telephoto range have IS to counteract camera shake. With newer cameras with IBIS will stabilize all lenses now. Instead of just relying on Optical Stabilization alone. Not all lenses have Optical Stabilization due to very wide open apertures such as F/1.2 or F/2. 

-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

stevet1
Authority
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I have been mulling this over and have not come to a conclusion.

One argument says that there is more of a tendency for camera shake with heavier cameras and lenses because your arms get tired and it's harder to hold your equipment still.

A counter argument says that there is more of a tendency for camera shake in lighter cameras and lenses because, due to its lighter weight, when you push the shutter button down down, it's easier to move the camera, and as  Demetrius says, there is probably no IS in those short lenses at wide open apertures.

I've just been musing.

Steve Thomas

I think both arguments have in common is that the issue is technique in holding the camera with extended arms creating a far greater risk of camera movement.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

kingsahibkhan
Contributor

I uploaded photos from today. For two of them(the pic of the 2 ladies and the pic of the woman all the way in the back)  the camera was on a 2 second timer on a hard surface. For the one labeled cuzzo, he was sat only 10 feet away from me and came out very soft. 

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