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EOS R6 Mark II - I'm having trouble with flash exposure simulation.

adam461
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So I'm new to the mirrorless game and I'm slowly getting used to my R6mk2, one thing that annoys me is the flash simulation, whenever I switch the Speedlite (EL-10) on, the exposure simulation changes and it shows what the image will look like with the flash firing. To me, coming from a DSLR, I find it odd and I'm not getting on with it very well. Is there an option to switch off the flash exposure simulation? I've searched online and found a video based on the R6, but the settings seem different with the mk2. I have switched off the exposure simulation, which I'm considering sticking with (shame though, because I might be getting my full use out of the new mirrorless technology), but before I do, I'm wondering if I can switch off the flash simulation and go from there. Thanks in advance for any help.

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p4pictures
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This is the way exposure simulation works for all the EOS R-series cameras. When a flash signals to the camera that it is charged - ready to fire - the camera switches off the exposure simulation temporarily, until the flash exposure has taken place or the flash is switched off. 

The logic behind this is that many people use a flash in dark / dimly lit conditions. In such case if the camera is set to simulate the exposure, it's highly likely that the scene will appear rally dark on the LCD/EVF and also in that case the clever subject detection AF struggles to focus. The solution engineered in the cameras is to switch off the simulation of the ambient light, making the scene look brighter than it is, and also allowing the AF to operate. So what you see is not a simulation of the flash exposure, but a boosted brighter view of the scene ignoring the current camera settings. 

Flash + low light example

Simulation being switched off helps in this kind of picture taken in dark conditions, but you can't actually see how the low level of ambient light will be captured before the shot is taken, it actually looks brighter than this in the viewfinder / evf. I often switch off the flash and take a photo just to see how the ambient will record in this situation. 

Low light + Speedlite flashLow light + Speedlite flash 

Fill-in flash in daylight  

The flaw in the solution is when you want to use fill-in flash to illuminate a subject that might be backlit by sun, so their face is in shadow. Simulation is still switched off, but still have no sense of how the scene looks before your fill-in flash fires. Furthermore if the subject is brightly back lit the face may be in so much shadow that eye detection won't actually find the eye.

2406R62_6537_5414-IG.jpg

Studio flash issues with non-dedicated radio transmitters 

If you do studio work with flash, using a simple trigger that does not tell the camera the flash is ready, then you have to switch off the simulation yourself in order to see the subject. Simulating the manual camera settings of 1/200th f/8 and ISO 100 in low light is like leaving the lens cap on.

2111BWR60388_2873-IG.jpg

 


Brian
EOS specialist trainer, photographer and author
-- Note: my spell checker is set for EN-GB, not EN-US --

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p4pictures
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This is the way exposure simulation works for all the EOS R-series cameras. When a flash signals to the camera that it is charged - ready to fire - the camera switches off the exposure simulation temporarily, until the flash exposure has taken place or the flash is switched off. 

The logic behind this is that many people use a flash in dark / dimly lit conditions. In such case if the camera is set to simulate the exposure, it's highly likely that the scene will appear rally dark on the LCD/EVF and also in that case the clever subject detection AF struggles to focus. The solution engineered in the cameras is to switch off the simulation of the ambient light, making the scene look brighter than it is, and also allowing the AF to operate. So what you see is not a simulation of the flash exposure, but a boosted brighter view of the scene ignoring the current camera settings. 

Flash + low light example

Simulation being switched off helps in this kind of picture taken in dark conditions, but you can't actually see how the low level of ambient light will be captured before the shot is taken, it actually looks brighter than this in the viewfinder / evf. I often switch off the flash and take a photo just to see how the ambient will record in this situation. 

Low light + Speedlite flashLow light + Speedlite flash 

Fill-in flash in daylight  

The flaw in the solution is when you want to use fill-in flash to illuminate a subject that might be backlit by sun, so their face is in shadow. Simulation is still switched off, but still have no sense of how the scene looks before your fill-in flash fires. Furthermore if the subject is brightly back lit the face may be in so much shadow that eye detection won't actually find the eye.

2406R62_6537_5414-IG.jpg

Studio flash issues with non-dedicated radio transmitters 

If you do studio work with flash, using a simple trigger that does not tell the camera the flash is ready, then you have to switch off the simulation yourself in order to see the subject. Simulating the manual camera settings of 1/200th f/8 and ISO 100 in low light is like leaving the lens cap on.

2111BWR60388_2873-IG.jpg

 


Brian
EOS specialist trainer, photographer and author
-- Note: my spell checker is set for EN-GB, not EN-US --

adam461
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Many thanks for taking the time to reply.

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