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ebiggs1
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Maybe you will like these better.  I try to please! Smiley Happy

 

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All with my best of class, 1.3 body the EOS 1D Mk IV.  Birders favorite camera!  I love this camera. 

EB
EOS 1DX and many lenses.
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IIRC = "If I remember correctly"

IOW = "In other words"

 

You're a funny man, you do have a sense of humor  Smiley LOL

 

I'm using DPP 3.   But you can get the Trumpet out Bob it's a sad day.  I just committed Photography suiside, Oh Man.  I just ordered LR, it's processing as I type.  Also got the Canon Lens Tripod Mount, almost got a 3rd party one for 1/4 of the price.  But thought since this is for an expensive Canon Lens (least for me) and thought of what Obiwan said about damaging my 60D...I just went and bit the bullet for the Canon Mount., did'nt want to chance an inferior product.   Since I had blew my budget for next month already, I said what the heck, and got the Rapid Extreme Sling and the Canon 50mm f/1.4.         I can hear the Taps blowin Bob.........way down here.  Man Sad               Just tell Obiwan to put roses on my grave.......Smiley LOL

 

 

. The editor can handle it if it has the lens data. This stuff should be covered in the DPP manual. Shame on Canon if it isn't

 

Don't fault Canon just yet, I did'nt even look.  I thought better to ask you, since I seem to understand stuff explained by you and Obiwan, much better than many manuals and help files.   Man, some of the manuals and help files leave a whole lot to be desired....least by me.   Many, I don't think, are written very well, and I've always wondered if some help/manuals instructions were actually written from guys using them in practical application.   Many seem to be computer generated to me.   Something a machine would write.  Some have no logic or reason.

Man I don't even now where to start with all that goings on!

But I will start with, you are no anywhere near your own worst critic.  Believe me!  Probably photography and music are the most brutal and cruel disciplines a person can enter.

 

Not to hit you too hard and possibly letting you see how, at least in this 'critics' eyes what you did and are doing wrong. Neither photo was staright. Period.

I simply loaded each into LR and let LR do its bacis 'one click' corrections.  Now remember this is very basic and a person can do way more with careful edits.

 I was hoping you got the new bigger monitor?  Did you?  If you did not LR and even DPP is a waste of time and money with LR.  LR has the lens correction built in, for your lens, and this is what it did.  Remember this is its basic settings.

 

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Look these over very carefully on your new, hopefully, monitor.  If you do not see any improvement, cancel your order for LR.  It will be a waste for you.

 

In the second picture, do you see the buildings?  How correct they seem?  In the first do you see the shore line was no where close to how it should look?  Now it is.   Do you see the lens corrections in both?  How about the deeper saturation of colors?  Don't the shadows show up now?  Do you see the better definition?

 

Now as for buying all that stuff, DO NOT BUY STUFF BECAUSE OF ME!  Buy the gear that suits your need and requirement.  You are not a pro shooter and you will never subject your gears to the abuse I have. (In the past I hope.)  The third party collar would likely be OK.  

 

I just sent off my 1Ds Mk III along with the 85mm f1.2L to CPS because it had a rough tumble at a shoot yesterday.  Broke the filter on the front of the 85.  I doubt either is damaged but it was time for the Mk III's annual check-up.  I am thinking this is the last year I do annuals as I am not shooting like I used to.  I will get the Mk IV done as soon as the 3 is back.

 

You know the old saying, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.  Well if you have thin skin don't go into photography or music either for that matter.  Its tough.........................

 

EB
EOS 1DX and many lenses.

You are shooting RAW?

Why are you setting anything?  Peripheral illumination correction or any, well most, of the other settings that the camera can apply are not recoreded.  These are added by you in post.  When you set stuff like that, the camera makes a small data file, sometimes called a 'sidecar' to tell the editor, "Hey this is what I think he wanted."  But you, not the camera, tell the RAW file how you really want it.  And of coures it makes a new sidecar. Smiley Wink

 

At this point you are rushing ahead too fast.  You need to slow down and start learnig how to use what you have and how it works.  Stop buying stuff.  You are bound to make mistakes until you get farther along.

 

What you really need is that gooder, better monitor.

EB
EOS 1DX and many lenses.


@ebiggs1 wrote:

Man I don't even now where to start with all that goings on!

But I will start with, you are no anywhere near your own worst critic.  Believe me!  Probably photography and music are the most brutal and cruel disciplines a person can enter.

 

Woooooha hold your briches Obiwan  Smiley LOL, you're runnin out the barn like ya behind is on fire  Smiley LOLSmiley LOL

 

Not to hit you too hard and possibly letting you see how, at least in this 'critics' eyes what you did and are doing wrong. Neither photo was staright. Period.  Come ahead, I'm all ears

I simply loaded each into LR and let LR do its bacis 'one click' corrections.  Now remember this is very basic and a person can do way more with careful edits.

 I was hoping you got the new bigger monitor?  Did you?  Yes I did    If you did not LR and even DPP is a waste of time and money with LR.  LR has the lens correction built in, for your lens, and this is what it did.  Remember this is its basic settings.

 

 Looks really nice., I like these results.  The colors actually look better, more natural.  Even the clouds look more defined.

 

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Look these over very carefully on your new, hopefully, monitor.  If you do not see any improvement, cancel your order for LR.  It will be a waste for you.  I got the monitor 1080P HD and I see much improvement from my originals.  But I'm on my older laptop monitor right now and I still see all the same stuff.  This monitor is 720P HD and I still see it all.  Looks good Obiwan. 

 

In the second picture, do you see the buildings?  How correct they seem? Yep, I see them   In the first do you see the shore line was no where close to how it should look?  Now it is.  I can see that.  But I said mine was off when I posted them.   Much better now    Do you see the lens corrections in both?  How about the deeper saturation of colors?  Don't the shadows show up now?  Do you see the better definition?   Everything looks better, straighter, more clarity and definition.  Now I can see the guys plain by the rail fishing.  They were hard to make out before.

 

Now as for buying all that stuff, DO NOT BUY STUFF BECAUSE OF ME!  Buy the gear that suits your need and requirement.  You are not a pro shooter and you will never subject your gears to the abuse I have. (In the past I hope.)  The third party collar would likely be OK.

 

    This I did'nt do for you I'm sorry, I did it for me.  Really did Obiwan.  I was sick of myself not getting my pics right.  I felt LR was the only answer and i really want to be satisfied with my pics and finally agreed with you about LR.  It was my choice, and my choice only.  I wanted the Black Rapid Sling because it has an extra strap that goes under the arm.  Not just because you have one.   My sling kept sliding down off my shoulder, sliding down to my camera.  I got tired pulling it backup right, on my shoulder.   If I could have found a cheaper sling with that extra strap that I like, I would have gotton it.  I did check before I decided.  I decided on the Canon mount for me too.  I would have beat myself up forever if that 3rd party lens mount would have failed and damaged my camera, lens, or both.   I got too much money invested in my gear, my money is hard earned, I want the best use from it.  I  do think it was too much Canon charged for the ring mount, but hey, I got peace of mind.  Far as the 50mm, I already told you I planned to get it.  I just moved the purchase up a month or so.  Actually, I'm glad I got it  all, now I can sit back and enjoy taking pics for awhile.  I won't feel like I'm needing something and don't have it.   Don't take what I said to Bob so serious, I was only funnin.  Did'nt you see the smiley faces?????   I'm good my friend.  My funds are good too, I'm not as hard up as I sounded.  I will never spend money I can't afford to spend.  You can take that to the bank Smiley Wink

 

I just sent off my 1Ds Mk III along with the 85mm f1.2L to CPS because it had a rough tumble at a shoot yesterday.  Broke the filter on the front of the 85.  I doubt either is damaged but it was time for the Mk III's annual check-up.  I am thinking this is the last year I do annuals as I am not shooting like I used to.  I will get the Mk IV done as soon as the 3 is back.  You and Bob must have some kind of service plan with Canon for your gear.  From how you guys talk about your service calls I get that immpression.

 

You know the old saying, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.  Well if you have thin skin don't go into photography or music either for that matter.  Its tough.........................Well, I'm still here in the kitchen  Smiley Tongue 

 

I told you I wanted you to give it to me straight....straight up with no chaser Smiley Wink  I need constructive critisism.  I think you and Bob are 2 of the good guys and I don't believe either of you would say something negative just to hurt someone...anyone.  So, although a time may come when some things you guys say may not feel so good, I believe if you two do say it...............it's something I need to hear, and It will make me be better in photography.  I can't give you two any better vote of confidence than that.   Guess you can take it for what you think it's worth !!!!!!!

 


 


@ebiggs1 wrote:

You are shooting RAW?   Sure am

Why are you setting anything?  Thought I would give it a try.  I experiment with settings, I'm learning.  That's how I sometimes learn, from making mistakes     Peripheral illumination correction or any, well most, of the other settings that the camera can apply are not recoreded.  These are added by you in post.  When you set stuff like that, the camera makes a small data file, sometimes called a 'sidecar' to tell the editor, "Hey this is what I think he wanted."  But you, not the camera, tell the RAW file how you really want it.  And of coures it makes a new sidecar. Smiley Wink

 

Ok, so now I know.  I will do as you suggest.

 

At this point you are rushing ahead too fast.  You need to slow down and start learnig how to use what you have and how it works.  Stop buying stuff.  You are bound to make mistakes until you get farther along.

 

Yes I will make mistakes, that's a given ......like death and taxes.  Important thing is that I learn from them.  Life is a series of challenge and adversity, that we're suppose to learn from.  That's why I try not to get bent outta shape when things don't go my way.  I try best as I can to live life on it's own terms, not mine.

 

What you really need is that gooder, better monitor.

 

Obiwan give it a break, I got one  Man SadMan LOLSmiley LOL


 


@jazzman1 wrote:

 

 

IIRC = "If I remember correctly"

IOW = "In other words"

 

You're a funny man, you do have a sense of humor  Smiley LOL

 

I'm using DPP 3.   But you can get the Trumpet out Bob it's a sad day.  I just committed Photography suiside, Oh Man.  I just ordered LR, it's processing as I type.

 

Lightroom is highly regarded by the many photographers who use it. Learn to use it and decide for yourself how well it meets your needs. Life is too short for you to start having buyer's remorse before you ever even try the product.

 

Also got the Canon Lens Tripod Mount, almost got a 3rd party one for 1/4 of the price.  But thought since this is for an expensive Canon Lens (least for me) and thought of what Obiwan said about damaging my 60D...I just went and bit the bullet for the Canon Mount., did'nt want to chance an inferior product.

 

Obviously I know nothing of the 3rd-party mount you didn't buy. But in products of this sort the difference is often that the expensive versions are forgings and the cheap ones castings. A casting is more likely to break under stress.

 

Since I had blew my budget for next month already, I said what the heck, and got the Rapid Extreme Sling and the Canon 50mm f/1.4.         I can hear the Taps blowin Bob.........way down here.  Man Sad               Just tell Obiwan to put roses on my grave.......Smiley LOL

 

If you think that's me second-guessing you, you'd be wrong. You're a more impulsive purchaser than I am, I suppose, but that doesn't mean that what you're doing is wrong. What you should guard against, IMO, is letting other people make decisions for you. And especially against encouraging them to do so.

Bob
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA


@jazzman1 wrote:

@ebiggs1 wrote:

 

I just sent off my 1Ds Mk III along with the 85mm f1.2L to CPS because it had a rough tumble at a shoot yesterday.  Broke the filter on the front of the 85.  I doubt either is damaged but it was time for the Mk III's annual check-up.  I am thinking this is the last year I do annuals as I am not shooting like I used to.  I will get the Mk IV done as soon as the 3 is back.

 

You and Bob must have some kind of service plan with Canon for your gear.  From how you guys talk about your service calls I get that immpression.

 

We subscribe to Canon Professional Services (q.v.), a service and support program oriented toward pros and semi-pros with a lot of Canon equipment. It's worthwhile only if you really depend on your gear and need it to be in top condition at all times.

Bob
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA

Hey Bob good to hear from you.Smiley Happy  I'm tired as heck right now and still have stuff to do.  I would hate to repeat everything I told Biggs, I want to tell you.  If you would read my last replies to Obiwan about being pushed into stuff and doing things cause someone said i should, i'd be mighty grateful to not have to repeat it all to you.  But the short story is I have'nt been pushed, pulled, jumped on, shot at, beatup, chased, nor intimidated  Smiley Tongue ...........to do anything I did'nt want to.  Everything was my choice for me.  I will have no regrets about anything I purchased today, even if my gear grow feet and run away  Smiley LOL  Honest injun, i'm good Bob and thank you for your concern.  Most of what i said to you in that last post was said in jest, i was only funnin.  Please forgive me if I led you wrong ,but i think, like obiwan, you mistook what i said and how i meant it.  Implusive???  Maybe, I'll have to think about that one  Smiley Very Happy


@RobertTheFat wrote:

@jazzman1 wrote:

@ebiggs1 wrote:

 

I just sent off my 1Ds Mk III along with the 85mm f1.2L to CPS because it had a rough tumble at a shoot yesterday.  Broke the filter on the front of the 85.  I doubt either is damaged but it was time for the Mk III's annual check-up.  I am thinking this is the last year I do annuals as I am not shooting like I used to.  I will get the Mk IV done as soon as the 3 is back.

 

You and Bob must have some kind of service plan with Canon for your gear.  From how you guys talk about your service calls I get that immpression.

 

We subscribe to Canon Professional Services (q.v.), a service and support program oriented toward pros and semi-pros with a lot of Canon equipment. It's worthwhile only if you really depend on your gear and need it to be in top condition at all times.


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