6D shutter speed limitation

[canonuser78]

Dear all,

I am a new member but in the same time an old Canon owner.

I am thinking of an upgrade and these days I've read and watched some reviews, pro and cons, etc about Canon products and specially the battle between 5D Mk2 vs.6D.

Now, depending of how anyone will use the 6D camera there are some good but also some weak points.

At this moment for me this is the main reason that keeps me insecure in buying the 6D .

I really found this as a joke because my old 350D have 1/4000 max shutter speed and on the other hand 7D and even 60Da,  60D (all these below a full frame camera) have higher value (1/8000 max shutter speed).

Helping me to choose the right product , I just wanted to know if  this is a truly hardware shutter limitation or there will be a firmare update in the future in order to unlock the higher value .

In my humble opinion after so many years of research and development , you simply can't downgrade a product in order to fit in the market unless there are no reliable technical explanations .

It will be great if we all new potential buyers will receive a positive answer from a Canon Product manager for example because if you do some ggl search you'll find this a commonly discussed subject about the 6D.

Thank you,

[7D5D]

Don't own a 6D but I've read plenty. It appears that the 6D's shutter assembly is whats it is and nothing that firmware can alter. Aside from the lower max shutter speed, the assembly is rated at 100,000 actuations instead of 150,000. Again, this is what I've read on forums like this one, I have not verified it first hand.

IMO, this is one way canon reduced cost to produce a lower price FF body. I'm guessing most shooters aren't influenced by the lower max speed. High speed action shooters are not likely to be interested in the 6D for this and other reasons.

[Marsu42]

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canonuser78 wrote:
I really found this as a joke because my old 350D have 1/4000 max shutter speed and on the other hand 7D and even 60Da,  60D (all these below a full frame camera) have higher value (1/8000 max shutter speed).

... you cannot compare the 6d to aps-c because the larger full-frame shutter has to move a larger distance, that's also the reason why the cheaper 60d and so on have 1/250s x-sync and even the 5d3 only has 1/200s (1dx 1/250s, though that is an embarrassment because the competition is better and the original 1d managed 1/500 x-sync and 1/16000 shutter).

Though concerning the 6d I guess the spec limitations are motivated by marketing and keeping the 5d3 on top, thus at least a higher x-sync might very well be enabled by firmware if Canon would want to.

[canonuser78]

@Marsu42 yea... actually I was comparing as a joke , the main comparation can be done between other Full Frame models ..that's why I've started the post 🙂

@7D5D, you're right ,this is one way canon reduced cost to produce a lower price body I agree but we are talking about Full Frames ,not about a top car with bike wheels we all have expectations 🙂

thank you for your reply guys, as I mentioned It will be nice to have an official Canon response.

anyway, at the end , overall is a good camera and sooner or later I think I'll buy one.
Kind regards,

[ScottyP]

I agree with Marsu.  A lot of the differences are artificially imposed to maintain the 5D3's advantage in stats.  I don't think that many of those types of parts really cost Canon that much less; I think that they just can't undercut their own higher-end models with their base model.

On the other hand, how often do most people really use faster than 1/4000 shutter speed? 

[p4pictures]

Here's my take - wth some technical merit - on why the limted shutter speed range.

For a camera with a larger sensor the shutter curtains need to be moved over a larger space, to do so at high speed and with incredible precision requires big powerful motors. The smaller cheaper cameras cut costs somewhere, and these motors are one such area of cost cutting and weight saving. In fact this is the same reason why the EOS 6D has only 1/180s flash sync yet the 5d3 has 1/200s and the 1Dx has 1/250s. The EOS 7D with it's smaller APS-C sensor keeps the faster 1/250s sync speed that not even the 5D3 has.Even the EOS-1Dx is actually slower flash sync speed than the EOS-1D Mark IV that had a smaller APS-H size sensor.

Still that said the EOS 6D is a neat camera but I wouldn't downgrade my 5D3 to switch to it for the WiFi / GPS

Brian / p4pictures.com