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70-200 f2.8L photos too soft

uptheirons
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I am facing IQ issues with all photos I am capturing with my 70-200 on a 5dm4. Even when mounted on a tripod under good lighting conditions, I can't seem to get crisp photos. They come out pretty soft. I am not sure if its my technique or if there is some issue with the lens. I've never had any luck with this lens since I bought it but I always attribted that to my T2i. I sent it to canon for repair few months back and they told me there is dust on the glass and the mount has scratches, which I think is total BS as I hardly used the lens.

 

Even after coming back from the "repair", I still get very soft pics. I will test the lens for front and back focussing to see if that's the reason, but sometimes I seem to be getting ok shots. I am not sure if I am expecting too much out of this lens. Reading online many people attest to the quality of the lens. May be I got a bad one.

 

Any suggestions on how I can make sure its not the lens that defective?

 

Link to some raw files - https://photos.app.goo.gl/mXL3rNktA21e1f2P8.

 

Thanks!   

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uptheirons
Contributor
Just saw your previous post. I did upload the raw files but I think google photos converted them to jpg. How do I upload raw files on this forum? I tried that but the site complained that they are too big.

Yes they would be so that is out.  You need something like Dropbox.

 

However form the sample, I did get to see in PS, your lens looks just fine. Don't go beyond 100% in viewing.  That is a critical viewing level for sure. If you shoot Raw format none of your camera settings are applied to the Raw file.  Always do a lens correction and a small amount of sharpening.  Less is more. I always do a levels adjustment in PS, too.  But that is mostly it.

 

There are similar adjustments in DPP4.

EB
EOS 1D, EOS 1D MK IIn, EOS 1D MK III, EOS 1Ds MK III, EOS 1D MK IV and EOS 1DX and many lenses.

uptheirons
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I do shoot only raw. It’s possible google photos stripped out all the meta data.

Thanks for assuring me that the lens is ok 😃. This thing has been stressing me out.


@Ray-uk wrote:

Trying to assess sharpness by viewing at 200% is a complete waste of time because the software is just spreading the pixel information over a larger area than the natural resolution, there is no point in going above 100%.


That is both true and not true at the same time.  I lot depends upon the size of your screen, so let's assume a 15" laptop. 

 

"Trying to assess sharpness by viewing at 200%, on a 15-inch 2K display, is a complete waste of time". Now, this is TRUE!  A 2K display is your typical 1920 x 1080 Full HD display resolution.

 

I use a laptop with a 15" 4K display.  The display has a resolution of 3840 x 2160.  When I open a photo in most appplications, the image is typically displayed "fit" to the size of the window displaying it.  

 

Zooming to "100%" means use one display pixel per image pixel. In other words, display the image at a 1:1 ratio between display pixels and image pixels.  When I change the image from "fit" to "100%", the display does not change very much.  I am sill looking at most of an 20MP image.

 

If I want to actually "zoom in" on an image for a magnified view, then I need to select 200% or more to see a "magnified" view.

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"Enjoying photography since 1972."

"That is both true and not true at the same time." 

 

Of course a better monitor is better. But at 100% you are still at pixel level at least in PS. I don't know what editor or viewer you use.

I have a 32" monitor and PS opens up a full Raw file at 25% from the 1DX.

If you increase to more than one 100% you are asking the computer guess. A Raw file can only reproduce an image at the resolution it was taken at. If you blow it up the image further than 100%, it will try to do it. However, what you see will be a best guess. Your computer will try to show the current pixels replicated outwards. Each pixel will be surrounded by replicas of itself. This will make your picture look blurry.  100% is 100%.

 

To the OP don't do that!

EB
EOS 1D, EOS 1D MK IIn, EOS 1D MK III, EOS 1Ds MK III, EOS 1D MK IV and EOS 1DX and many lenses.


@ebiggs1 wrote:

"That is both true and not true at the same time." 

 

Of course a better monitor is better. But at 100% you are still at pixel level at least in PS. I don't know what editor or viewer you use.

I have a 32" monitor and PS opens up a full Raw file at 25% from the 1DX.

If you increase to more than one 100% you are asking the computer guess. A Raw file can only reproduce an image at the resolution it was taken at. If you blow it up the image further than 100%, it will try to do it. However, what you see will be a best guess. Your computer will try to show the current pixels replicated outwards. Each pixel will be surrounded by replicas of itself. This will make your picture look blurry.  100% is 100%.

 

To the OP don't do that!


You're talking about pixel binning.  When I zoom to 200%, the number of pixels needed to display the image is doubled in along horizontal and vertical axis.  This means four display pixels, 2 x 2, are used to display one image pixel.  No image processing required.

 

I have a couple of 27" 1920 x 1080 monitors, too.  Images do look bad when I zoom past 100%. 

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"Enjoying photography since 1972."

OK then you are not actually viewing at 100% pixel level.  That was my point.

EB
EOS 1D, EOS 1D MK IIn, EOS 1D MK III, EOS 1Ds MK III, EOS 1D MK IV and EOS 1DX and many lenses.
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