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EOS R100 settings for external PHOTOOLEX LCD flash

shopstefanov89
Contributor

Hi,
I need a help about my canon R100 and Speedlite Flash settings.
I bought PHOTOOLEX LCD

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When I use manual settings on the camera and turn flash on the external flash is working but the camera is not in "external flash mode"
When I go to
flash control -> external flash func. setting
it shows :
" This menu cannot be displayed. Incompatible flash or flash's power is turned off"
When I try it with my neewer strobe it shows the same.
I am a new and need a help with it please.

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deebatman316
Elite
Elite

Your flash system IS NOT COMPATIBLE with the External Speedlite Control Menu. This menu is ONLY compatible with some of Canon's speedlites. Not all of them are compatible but this is true for older speedlites from Canon. These speedlites have been discontinued and replaced by newer models compatible with it.

-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

Thank you for your fast reply 🙂
What is the different if I use that flash with no that " External Speedlite Control Menu" as it's work anyway?
Is canon speedlite 430ex ii is compatible with Canon R100 and what will be the difference if I buy it ?

The 430EX II was the first midrange series compatible with the External Speedlite Control Menu. The External Speedlite Control Menu allows the photographer to control most. If not all speedlite settings from the camera instead of the speedlite's LCD screen if equipped with one. All of Canon's EX and EL-1 and EL-100 speedlites are compatible with your camera. The EL-5 & EL-10 speedlites are only compatible on certain EOS R series cameras. With the new multi function hot shoe. Your camera has the older hot shoe.

-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

Thank you. I will buy canon speedlite 430ex ii. As I am a beginner and the question will be very unprofessional and incorrect.
When I pop up the built-in camera flash, the camera display is brighter and it looks like is totally different mode and the photos are different/brighter/better look with flash.
Will it be the same when I buy canon speedlite 430ex ii and I activate "External Speedlite Control Menu"? Will the display, photos quality and everything will be the same as I pop out the built in flash?
I hope that makes sense.
Thank you

Exposure Simulation is DISABLED with flash photography. When the flash is set Auto Mode (E-TTL) the camera controls everything like the built-in flash. The photos will be better quality because the speedlite is more powerful than the built-in flash. Note the Red "IR" AF Assist Beam on the speedlite IS INCOMPATIBLE with mirrorless cameras. The speedlite's AF Assist Beam Automatically switches to Intermittent Flash Firing. The speedlite will pulse rapidly to assist the camera's AF system in low light and or contrast situations. But note depending on the ambient lighting the camera body may project an LED AF Assist Beam. All of Canon's Speedlites with an IR AF Assist Beam will do this even if the speedlite has a personal function between IR & Intermittent Flash Firing.

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-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

shopstefanov89
Contributor

Thank you so much for the information. 🙂
I am looking to buy 430EX or 430EX II and when I test it I will post again.

The original 430EX IS NOT COMPATIBLE with the External Speedlite Control Menu. The 430EX II is however.

-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

Thank you very much again :)))

Is 420EX compatible with my camera or not?

All Canon speedlites ending with EX in the name is compatible with your camera. Note the 420EX is an older speedlite it has partial compatibility to set 1st/ 2nd (rear) curtain sync and Flash Exposure Compensation (FEC). But other than that it's not fully compatible with the External Speedlite Control. But the speedlite will work just fine. Even though the External Speedlite Control Menu is NOT fully operational. The picture below shows an example of what the External Speedlite Control Menu shows. When the speedlites 220EX, 380EX & 420EX are mounted on the camera. I own the 420EX550EX470EX-AI600EX II-RT. The 420EX lacks an LCD screen and 550EX has an LCD screen with a full set of controls on it. Therefore it being incompatible with the External Speedlite Control Menu. Is not problem because all of the settings in the camera are available on the Speedlite's LCD screen itself. Also the 550EX camera gives you a choice to set FEC (Flash Exposure Compensation) from the camera body or speedlite. Note if set on both the camera and speedlite. The speedlite's settings overrides the camera's setting. Regardless of how much is set on the speedlite or camera.

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-Demetrius
Bodies: EOS 5D Mark IV
Lenses: EF Trinity, EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Retired Gear: EOS 40D, EF 50mm F/1.8 STM & EF 70-210mm F/4
Speedlites: 420EX, 470EX-AI, 550EX & 600EX II-RT

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