entry level photography seeking to purchase

[KMR13]

Hi. I have been reading a lot of info here and talking to photographers. I'm still a bit stuck in regard to my purchase. I owned a canon rebel DSLR from 2003- 2017 until the shutter button broke. along came the iPhone and kids and I never replaced that camera--but it's time. I have used my in-laws D90 (nikon) and while a beast it is a great camera.
I know the following:

• go mirrorless
• choose between full frame and crop sensor based on type of photogphy
• choose a moderate priced body style within my budget & save $ to put into the glass (3 pros told me so)
• I am NOT interested in uploading my life to vlogs and social channels--I'm looking to take pictures so video is less important to me-- nice to have
• photos I like to take:  beach, woodlands, interning buildings, pets, family. I spend lots of time in Florida where ehe birds are big and generally strike a pose for you! my daughter has 2 years of competitive swim left and I enjoy capturing those moments (did fine with borrowing the D90 last summer for that)
• Ideal to have In Body Stabilization, but not essential with good lenses
• I like a solid grip, but that's not primary reason to pick one camera over another
• make sure there is a wide variety of lens options (e.g. full frame can take APS-C lenses but not vice versa)
• weather seal may be a consideration-- sand, salt, mist, humidity....Florida, pool decks, etc
• will join a club and would like to submit to contests as I did this in the past...so much relearning to do now!
  
  I have read about and likely have over read (hence my indecision) about the r100 (ruled it out) the R50, RP, and R10 and R8 and I really don't know which way to go. I also have read that Sony is crushing the market with its technology, but not sure they are in my price range.  Someone suggested the Nikon Z5 or z50, but not sure those are for me either.
  
  Budget--I'd like to get a solid base to RE-learn and grow with and a really good lens for under $1,000 (with holiday sales, this should be within reach). I am not opposed to used or older model base if at a great price. Ex: someone suggested getting an RP, if at a good price, and learn and grow with that....
  
  I have heard the R50 is really entry level and better for the jet setting vlogger... the R8 has a serious overheating problem. I also read that some of these "dainty" APS-C cameras can barely hold the larger lenses so it makes for awkward/off balance holding of the body and lens....
  
  Looking for suggestions.... straightforward and straight-up. Thank you!

[KMR13]

I’m down to the R10 or the R8. Why should one choose  go with full format ? 

[KMR13]

Thanks!  If the vendor event offers a great deal in my budget I’m going to have to choose R10 or R8….bug good to know the r50 is a solid buy to get started!  

[KMR13]

Thanks!  If the vendor event has a steel on the R6 or R8 that may be the way to go. 
Otherwise it seems  the R10 is a solid option. And the r50 next 

[KMR13]

Hey pros - a new question. Is full frame not fornat  going to be around a while? Or is it going to be obsolete in a few years  like dslr? 

[justadude]

What exactly do you mean by full format?  You're not asking about full frame, are you?

[KMR13]

FULL FRAME. yes. 

[justadude]

Full Frame is the same format size that 35mm film has been for decades.  I don't see that going away for a long, long time.  

[March411]

Full frame isn't going anywhere, it's a standard for small format. Personally between the two I would go with the R8. Full frame sensor, body is weather sealed, focus points, 1053 R8 vs 651 R10 = 402 more focus points. The R8 is also a newer body by almost a year so it will have a longer service life then the R10.

Compare Canon-EOS-R8-vs-Canon-EOS-R10 

[Ron888]

Yes Canon is rock solid behind full frame.Almost all their mirrorless lenses are for full frame

[krahe]

It's too bad Canon didn't maintain the M series - it sounds like an M50 or a newer incarnation of it would have been a good fit for you in terms of price, capability and ergonomics. Because of the latter if I were to buy into the R series I would likely have to lean towards an R10 rather than the otherwise capable and logical R50. Whatever way you decide to go, try it in your hand with at least one RF (as opposed to RF-S) lens, or any EF/EF-S lens with an adapter if you might be considering using those, before you buy.