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EOS R100 silent shutter support in RAW

nobodyeasy
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SO SAD.....ALL SOLD, BLAMING TO THE MIRRORLESS

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I've witnessed the photography landscape evolve, transitioning from DSLR to mirrorless cameras, a change that's not just about technology but also about new possibilities. I appreciate the compactness, the rapid shooting speeds, and the video capabilities that come without a mirror mechanism (Never needed). It's true that this design eats into battery life, but the trade-off is worth it for the faster autofocus and the high ISO performance with minimal noise, which is crucial for my RAW format shots. Software like DXO PureRAW has been a game-changer for me, optimizing the sharpness and shadows of my images to near perfection.

As for the Canon EOS R100, I'm intrigued by its silent shutter mode, which promises discretion in moments that demand quietness. Yet, I'm aware that this feature is usually tied to automatic settings, and I might not be able to use it with manual controls, which are essential to my photography style. But my question is that the R100 supports silent shooting in RAW format means I won't have to compromise on image quality?

In the end, whether I choose a Sony mirrorless or the Canon EOS R100, it's about the unique advantages each camera offers. The R100, in particular, seems well-suited for my panoramic shots, especially those I plan to display on Google Maps. It's not just about the resolution; it's about the practicality of image processing and the speed at which these images can load on screens worldwide. The silent shutter in RAW format is just the cherry on top for a photographer like me, who values both the quality of the shot and the silence in which it's captured. If I go for the R100, it will be for its panoramic prowess and the seamless experience it promises for my global audience.

ALL SOLD, SO SAD.......ALL SOLD, SO SAD.......

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kvbarkley
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Since Canon EF lenses work just fine on Canon R cameras with the Canon adapter, there is no reason to sell them just yet.

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Tronhard
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The type of shutter - mechanical, first curtain electronic or full electronic, impacts the frames per second and the focusing performance, but is not related to the file format - RAW or JPG.  You can use your EF lenses via the Canon EF-RF adapter with no issues.

Before making a decision I would also suggest viewing the following video:

You may observe that the bodies are all very close in size, which is a function of their sensor size, but the R10 and R50 have significantly better sensors and processors, and offer considerably more ability to control the operations with customizable buttons and dials.  The R10 and R50 offer much better face and eye tracking than the R100 in that respect.

Since you have a lot of full-frame lenses, I would seriously consider the EOS R8 or R6MkII - either is going to have better ISO performance and dynamic range because it has the same number of pixels as the APS-C, but being on larger sensor they will be larger and thus more efficient.  They have better face and eye tracking again, with the R6II being the best.  It is also better built, and use the LP-E6 series batteries you might have used on your full-frame DSLRs.  The R6II also has IBIS: (In-Body Image Stabilization) that adds to the lens' optical IS to significantly improve camera shake when using it hand-held.

If you are considering the R100, or any other camera for that matter, I strongly suggest downloading the Advanced User Guide for the models in which you are interested.
EOS R10 Manual:  c006.pdf (start.canon)  Note, this alone has a self-cleaning sensor.
EOS R50 Manual: cam.start.canon/en/C011/manual/c011.pdf
EOS R100 Manual:  c015.pdf (start.canon)
EOS R8 Manual:  c013.pdf (start.canon)
EOS R6 Manual: cam.start.canon/en/C012/manual/c012.pdf

I have the R6II and can attest to it's fabulous performance as a Prosumer body with high-end Canon EF and RF lenses.  It is bested only by the much more expensive R5 series, R3 and R1 which are full pro level bodies.

So, if full-frame sounds interesting, here is a comparative video on the R6, R6II and R8:

Since you have sold your a lot of great lenses, you may want to discuss what glass you could get, but for that we need more detail on what you want to photograph and any limitations on bulk and weight.

I hope this is helpful!


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

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kvbarkley
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Since Canon EF lenses work just fine on Canon R cameras with the Canon adapter, there is no reason to sell them just yet.

I know but I'm just curious if anyone has followed my post. Indeed, I sold all the lenses in the photo because I'm over 50 and I suddenly found that street photography is less and less suitable for my personality change. The question I asked is whether R100 silent shutter supports RAW format? I still want to buy it now, and I'm hesitating whether to buy R5, R7, R8, or R100. I currently use Nikon and Sony mirrorless cameras.

Tronhard
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The type of shutter - mechanical, first curtain electronic or full electronic, impacts the frames per second and the focusing performance, but is not related to the file format - RAW or JPG.  You can use your EF lenses via the Canon EF-RF adapter with no issues.

Before making a decision I would also suggest viewing the following video:

You may observe that the bodies are all very close in size, which is a function of their sensor size, but the R10 and R50 have significantly better sensors and processors, and offer considerably more ability to control the operations with customizable buttons and dials.  The R10 and R50 offer much better face and eye tracking than the R100 in that respect.

Since you have a lot of full-frame lenses, I would seriously consider the EOS R8 or R6MkII - either is going to have better ISO performance and dynamic range because it has the same number of pixels as the APS-C, but being on larger sensor they will be larger and thus more efficient.  They have better face and eye tracking again, with the R6II being the best.  It is also better built, and use the LP-E6 series batteries you might have used on your full-frame DSLRs.  The R6II also has IBIS: (In-Body Image Stabilization) that adds to the lens' optical IS to significantly improve camera shake when using it hand-held.

If you are considering the R100, or any other camera for that matter, I strongly suggest downloading the Advanced User Guide for the models in which you are interested.
EOS R10 Manual:  c006.pdf (start.canon)  Note, this alone has a self-cleaning sensor.
EOS R50 Manual: cam.start.canon/en/C011/manual/c011.pdf
EOS R100 Manual:  c015.pdf (start.canon)
EOS R8 Manual:  c013.pdf (start.canon)
EOS R6 Manual: cam.start.canon/en/C012/manual/c012.pdf

I have the R6II and can attest to it's fabulous performance as a Prosumer body with high-end Canon EF and RF lenses.  It is bested only by the much more expensive R5 series, R3 and R1 which are full pro level bodies.

So, if full-frame sounds interesting, here is a comparative video on the R6, R6II and R8:

Since you have sold your a lot of great lenses, you may want to discuss what glass you could get, but for that we need more detail on what you want to photograph and any limitations on bulk and weight.

I hope this is helpful!


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

nobodyeasy
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As a photographer, I'm always weighing the pricing and value proposition of cameras like the Canon R10, R50, and R100. It's a significant consideration, especially when thinking about the longevity of the equipment. For instance, the Canon R10 is priced around $979, which means I could potentially get three R100s for the price of one, given the R100's lower price point of approximately $479($300 on sale price). Similarly, the R50, which costs about $629.99, could allow me to purchase two R100s. This pricing strategy gives me flexibility and options, especially if I prefer having multiple backup cameras.

Another critical factor for me is the silent shutter feature in mirrorless cameras, as it often promises a longer service life compared to mechanical shutters. Mirrorless cameras are reported to have shutter lives ranging from 100,000 to 400,000 actuations, which can be significantly higher than mechanical shutters. Some high-end models, like the Canon EOS R5, are even rated at 500,000 cycles. This extended lifespan can be attributed to the electronic shutter's lack of physical movement, reducing wear and tear, which is something I consider important for my professional needs. 

Is this true there no rolling shutter effect on mechanical shutter?

Is this true there no rolling shutter effect on mechanical shutter?  Effectively, no for most normal situations.   

Historically it was quite possible but modern sensors and mechanical shutter are far less prone to this.

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Jacques Henri Lartigue, circa 1913 mechanical shutter.

The issue of rolling shutter depends on what you are photographing.  I shoot wildlife predominantly (but also portrait, scenic and occasional sport) with mechanical and have no issues whatsoever.  Most people use electronic shutter for a couple of reasons: silence, high frame rates, or extremely high shutter speeds, but then one is risking rolling shutter with fast-moving elements.  This is not the case with the few cameras that have Global shutters, where all the photosites are refreshed at once - at this time, only Sony and Nikon have that for MILCs.

Since I observe you have invested in multiple Tokina 10-17 lenses, which is specific to APS-C cameras then you are pretty much tied to using one of the following: R7, R10, R50, R100.  You should not use those lenses with full-frame bodies.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

nobodyeasy
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Panoramic photography captivates me, and after work each day, capturing a 360° view of the world is a ritual I cherish. Having sold all my fixed-focus and zoom lenses, I've embraced the fisheye lens for its unique perspective. The sharpness of the Canon 8-15mm zoom fell short of my expectations, leading me to acquire seven or eight second-hand Tokina 10-17mm lenses at an unbeatable price of $150 each. These lenses, once I removed their hoods, became the perfect match for my full-frame Nikon and Canon DSLRs, broadening my horizons in the art of photography.

Panoramas are definitely intriguing and have their own special character and fisheye lenses certainly produce a unique vision. 

You might find this article on creating "Tiny Planets":
(3) Tutorial - Creating a Tiny Planet | Focus on Photography (focus-on-photography-forum.net)


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris
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