5D mark IV focal points not displaying when taking picture

[itakemoorepics]

have been looking in the manual, looked online, even when i'm at the menu where you are supposed to turn it on, it won't let me. I select it where it says "off" but no option to turn it on. Please help!

[itakemoorepics]

thanks for the info!  Canon did the firmware update with all the other things they did. That was one thing i had never done, as well. So, i'm sure it was in need of an update. Crazy what all they fixed on my camera!  But, now it's working great and hope to make it last a little longer... never knew there is a "life expectancy" on the mirror box and shutter! I love my 5D markIV and worth the money to fix.  I'm sure i'll get to mirrorless someday, but for now i'm happy with it and all my lenses!

[deebatman316]

1. Your shutter is rated for for a certain amount of actuations but this is only an average.
2. I installed the same firmware on my camera an it also turned off the AF Point display too. This usually doesn't happen though.

[itakemoorepics]

on June 7, 2022, i got the shutter  and mirror counts. The shot count was 292,536 and the Mirror count was 293,063. My firmware at that time was 1.2.1   Always learning...  

That's interesting.... were you able to get it back on? 

[deebatman316]

Yes the AF Points are back on. I have mine set to constantly display.

[ebiggs1]

"Your shutter is rated for for a certain amount of actuations but this is only an average."

It is actually a rating more than an average. It is meant as measurement of how durable the shutter assembly in the camera is. An entry level Rebel like a T7 will have a shutter rating of say 50k, The D series may have a 100k rating. While 1 series an have a  rating of 300k, It really has little to do with the average life of the shutter assembly. I have known of 1 series cameras with well over 500k on them and still going strong.

I have a good friend in the business with me that only bought used 1 series cameras. He would not even consider one that had less than 200k on it. He made a lot of money with them and spent a lot less money on them.

[deebatman316]

The reason I said "average" was because the camera maybe rated for 100k. But have more than 100k for instance 200k. So it's not a for sure way that your shutter will go out then. There are cameras rated for 100k but the shutter failed at 30k. Test cameras that Canon used had to exceed 100k shutter actuations. Before Canon said that the shutter was rated for such. Some of the cameras failed before 100k too.

[ebiggs1]

"Test cameras that Canon used had to exceed 100k shutter actuations."

Which is the definition of a "rating". Not an average. This is an indication of durability, really nothing more. As Canon does not warrant the camera to make, 100k again in your example, or they will replace it for instance. Just a number indicating how durable that particular shutter is.

[KCPhotoman]

Back to the original question.  I 

How do I view the AF points when the camera is in M, AV, TV, or P mode?  As Deebatmat316 correctly notes that page 149 of the manual states: "You CAN set whether to display the AF points . . . after focus is achieved."  But the manual does not describe HOW you can change the setting from Display OFF.  There is no other option to choose.  HELP!Camera in Full Auto modeAfter selectng AF point dispCamera in P modeAfter selecting AF point display during focus

[deebatman316]

You need to select "All (Constant)" to see the AF Points all the time.

[KCPhotoman]

image 2image 1Thanks wadizzle and deebatman316!

As you can see from the 4th image, All(constant) is the current selection. However Disable display shows OFF and is incapable of change.  

Also when I select All (constant) (image 1) it just goes "AF point display during focus " (image 2)

when I select AF point display during focus" it just toggles back to All (Constant) (image 1). And back and fort.