11-24-2023 06:11 AM
Hello,
I just would like to report the total incompatibility between Irix 15mm and the new R6 mark 2. I hope for a firmware update on Canon side but if ever somebody has a temporary fix, that would be great.
In the end we would just need to be able to set up the aperture at 8 or 11 and that would be it... Maybe with a small trick on the connectors ??
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12-12-2023 12:50 AM
Yes, but I don't see how they could update anything...
Besides... in nowadays long speaches about sustainability, it is really a common but **bleep**ty move from Canon to reinforce a patent to artificially render some lenses obsolete... All the more ridiculous as this just makes customers angry and will not make them buy new lenses. Even worse, I was planning to buy an RF but I won't.
Of course, you always have the unreal fanboys who seems happy to get screwed by brands 🙂
Well... let's wait and see.
12-12-2023 12:51 AM
Tamron EF mount lenses are working fine. By the way. At least my 100mm macro is.
12-12-2023 12:55 AM
The camera goes black as it doesn't detect the aperture. Only way to fix it is pop the battery out.
Well... I do understand that Canon wants more of our money and recreate proprietary mount... but in 2023, this is really pissing me off. That will probably sign the end of my Canon era. Next, I will just pick the body I like since in any case, I cannot go on using my old lenses.
12-12-2023 12:59 AM - edited 12-12-2023 01:02 AM
The brand deliberately changes a protocol and a mount to make you buy new lenses. You are ok with it. I am not. It is against all principle of sustainability and it is even against my understanding of cameras. I love using **bleep**ty lenses or non standard ones, to get different results. It is a pity that Canon just wants more money.
I did not experiment fanboy replies for a long time and I don't understand that you would accept that kind of attitude from a brand. Whatever the reason, this is not a fair attitude from the brand. And don't come to tell me about new protocols... Iris lenses are full manual, there is literally nothing to control besides aperture. And it was working on R6 which makes me think that it is a deliberate software modification.
Besides it actually detect the lens for a fraction of a second when you plug it.
12-12-2023 03:50 AM
@Iphosia wrote:Tamron EF mount lenses are working fine. By the way. At least my 100mm macro is.
This statement only supports what you are being told. Your issue is a lens problem. The Tamron EF lens works just fine. But the Irix EF lens does not. My Sigma EF lenses also work just fine with the Canon EF/RF mount adapter.
12-12-2023 03:59 AM - edited 12-12-2023 04:03 AM
@Iphosia wrote:Yes, but I don't see how they could update anything...
Besides... in nowadays long speaches about sustainability, it is really a common but **bleep**ty move from Canon to reinforce a patent to artificially render some lenses obsolete... All the more ridiculous as this just makes customers angry and will not make them buy new lenses. Even worse, I was planning to buy an RF but I won't.
Of course, you always have the unreal fanboys who seems happy to get screwed by brands 🙂
Well... let's wait and see.
First and foremost. This forum is not Canon Support and Service.
This Canon rant about your incompatible third party lens being Canon’s fault is probably one reason why Canon enforced their intellectual property against third party manufacturers.
A lot of users were making similar complaints about this and several other inexpensive brands of camera lenses and mount adapters. They were demanding a solution from Canon to allow their third party, EF mount lens gear to work on the new RF mount. Most of which was being sold before the RF mount was ever announced and released.
You have been asked or advised to contact Irix more than once. What has been the manufacturer’s response, if any?
12-12-2023 07:33 AM
@Iphosia wrote:The brand deliberately changes a protocol and a mount to make you buy new lenses. You are ok with it. I am not. It is against all principle of sustainability and it is even against my understanding of cameras. I love using **bleep**ty lenses or non standard ones, to get different results. It is a pity that Canon just wants more money.
I did not experiment fanboy replies for a long time and I don't understand that you would accept that kind of attitude from a brand. Whatever the reason, this is not a fair attitude from the brand. And don't come to tell me about new protocols... Iris lenses are full manual, there is literally nothing to control besides aperture. And it was working on R6 which makes me think that it is a deliberate software modification.
Besides it actually detect the lens for a fraction of a second when you plug it.
As I posted earlier:
Irix has already reported that their lenses are not compatible with the R3, R7 and R10, so it is likely they just haven't updated their list for the latest R body.
You didn’t do your homework.
12-12-2023 07:36 AM
I understand that you're angry and frustrated. But if you want to understand what's going on, then you need to ditch the emotion and think logically about what's happening. Also, it would be a good idea to listen to the people who are only trying to help you. Flinging insults around isn't constructive.
You keep framing tis in terms of Canon, and making accusations like "The brand deliberately changes a protocol and a mount to make you buy new lenses". If you think about this, and look at what's happening in photography generally, you must realise that this simply isn't true. All the camera manufacturers have changed their lens mounts:
And all for the same reason -- we don't need mirrors any more, so we can have more compact and efficient cacmeras. But that needs a new lens mount. This isn't fanboyism, it's just fact.
You state that "Iris lenses are full manual, there is literally nothing to control besides aperture" -- it sounds like you don't understand how your lens works, because this is self-contradictory. If the lens was fully manual, then the camera wouldn't be controlling the aperture.
Fully manual lenses have an aperture ring mechanically geared to the iris blades. With such a lens there is literally nothing the camera can do to stop the aperture working. I have a Lowa lens on my RF cameras that works like this. But the Irix lens is electronic -- on their web site, I can see the electronic contacts on the back of the lens -- and it looks like Irix have screwed up their implementation of the protocol. You should contact them about this.
You can change camera brands if you like -- I literally could not care less -- but if you expect this to change anything, prepare to be disappointed.
12-12-2023 10:55 AM
" Next, I will just pick the body I like since in any case, ..."
And you think all will be happy days and blue skies. No issues what so ever. How naive you must be.
01-27-2024 06:29 AM
Contact Irix via info@irixlens.com
They have FW update available to make the lenses compatible with the R3, R6II etc.
I live in Germany and had to send my lens (11mm 4.0) to the IRIX Service Center in Poland. There the lens was updated to the new GW within two days and sent back free of charge. This was in Novemer 2023. They may offer a similar service in your region.
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