10-27-2025
07:20 PM
- last edited on
10-28-2025
10:45 AM
by
Danny
10-27-2025 08:03 PM
We love these types of questions. 😍 Yours is a good one. Yes, both cameras are ISO. Invariant. A key trait of this feature is dual-based ISO. Although this applies to video, the camera's sensor in both cameras allows you to underexpose still images using a lower ISO, (maintaining contrast and details in shadows) then raise the exposure in post without amplifying noise introduced by higher ISO settings.
If you are considering these body's, you should look at the different ways each handles ISO. Youtube might be a helpful resource.
~Rick
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10-27-2025 08:03 PM
We love these types of questions. 😍 Yours is a good one. Yes, both cameras are ISO. Invariant. A key trait of this feature is dual-based ISO. Although this applies to video, the camera's sensor in both cameras allows you to underexpose still images using a lower ISO, (maintaining contrast and details in shadows) then raise the exposure in post without amplifying noise introduced by higher ISO settings.
If you are considering these body's, you should look at the different ways each handles ISO. Youtube might be a helpful resource.
~Rick
Bay Area - CA
~R5 C (1.0.9.1), ~R50v (1.1.1) ~RF Trinity, ~RF 100 Macro, ~RF 100~400, ~RF 100~500, ~RF 200-800 +RF 1.4x TC, BG-R10, 430EX III-RT ~DxO PhotoLab Elite ~DaVinci Resolve Studio ~ImageClass MF644Cdw/MF656Cdw ~Pixel 8 ~CarePaks Are Worth It
10-28-2025 08:35 AM - edited 10-28-2025 08:38 AM
It seems like the link I posted hanged the webpage here. Glad a moderator removed it.
Here is a print screen instead.
From the author:
"The amount of improvement in the shadow measurement when ISO is increased is what I am calling the PDR Shadow Improvement.
For those shooting raw it can be useful to know when raising ISO in the camera has little or no advantage over applying digital gain in post processing.
(Some people call this property "ISOless". I think that is a very poorly chosen term.)"
R5 and R5 II with electronic shutter will have a different curve. R5 in high speed too.
10-28-2025 10:55 AM
Peter,
Thanks for mentioning the bit about electronic shutter. 👍
~Rick
Bay Area - CA
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10-28-2025 11:01 AM
I can't read the chart you posted called Photons to Photos. Can you post the link again?
Thanks.
10-28-2025 11:14 AM
@tangogal wrote:
I can't read the chart you posted called Photons to Photos. Can you post the link again?
Thanks.
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR_Shadow.htm and click on the camera you are interested in.
Also https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
10-29-2025 03:01 AM
“ A key trait of this feature is dual-based ISO. Although this applies to video, the camera's sensor in both cameras allows you to underexpose still images using a lower ISO, (maintaining contrast and details in shadows) then raise the exposure in post without amplifying noise introduced by higher ISO settings. “
Exactly why I typically shoot with -1/3 Ev of compensation. My LR import preset increases the exposure to compensate. Especially with outdoor landscape photos.
I have been doing this for years, going back to my DSLR days. I would rather under expose shadows than push the limits of highlights.
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