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EOS R5 Too many images taken in silent mode due to lack of haptic feedback

rodolphef
Apprentice

When shooting in silent mode, as my team did during a video shoot, an issue came up; they ended up shooting way more images than needed. Having a Haptic response/feel on the trigger buttons would be so useful. That way they would be aware when they are actually shooting and avoid accidental triggerings. Does anyone else feel the same?

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Danny
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rs-eos
Elite
Elite

I could see having such a feature, though I don't believe any of Canon's cameras, cinema cameras, etc. have any haptic hardware. Do feel free though to provide this feedback to Canon by visiting the Main Web Page and then clicking on the "[+] Feedback" link near the upper-right.

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Ricky

Camera: EOS R5 II, RF 50mm f/1.2L, RF 135mm f/1.8L
Lighting: Profoto Lights & Modifiers

Are you already using back-button autofocus?  That might help, if you aren't already employing it to improve your current situation.

I don't see any high-end camera manufacturer causing any part of a camera to vibrate when they are spending big buck to dampen vibrations via IS and IBIS. 

I could see some special notification in the EVF when using silent shutter and the shutter is activated.  That could perhaps could be SMOP (simple matter of programming).


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Waddizzle
Legend
Legend

“ When shooting in silent mode, as my team did during a video shoot, an issue came up; they ended up shooting way more images than needed. Having a Haptic response/feel on the trigger buttons would be so useful. “

If you’re referring to the shutter button, then it already does provide feedback. The shutter can be half pressed, which causes the camera to focus. You can feel the button stop at a detente.

The user must press down further to activate the shutter.  Once again, the button provides tactile feedback to your fingertip. 

As for direct suggestions, submit a product feedback as previously mentioned. Speaking for myself, I would not like for the camera to vibrate whenever I pressed down to fire the shutter.

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shadowsports
Legend
Legend

Greetings,

I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I think its (highly) unlikely that there will ever be hepatic feedback in the shutter button or body of a Canon camera.  Number one it's not possible to put a hepatic motor into the shutter button mechanism.  Two, it could cause camera shake.  Even if it wasn't physically able to cause motion the sensation in your hand might cause some people to shake or move their camera.  Think about it, what is IBIS and IS there for?  Certainly not to counteract the effects of hepatic feedback.  You're welcome to leave this feature request but I don't see it coming to fruition.

~Rick
Bay Area - CA


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And can you feel 40 pulses per second? The point of the high frame rates and the pre-shooting is so your reflexes don't get in the way. Do you think you could stop this sequence in some particular place?

(From Ken Rockwell)

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I'm blind to things I see all the time.  I don't know about the R5 but on the R6MII there is already a visual alert in the electronic viewfinder.  The EVF frame "blinks" (mimicking the SLR/DSLR mirror moving) momentarily and a white frame around the edge flashes while storing frames in the high-speed mode.  So if the photographer has their eye in the camera everything they need to know to keep from filling a card full of useless frames is already there on the R6 Mark II. 

Haptic will never happen as it is a bad idea so the OP topic title is really not valid.  That said the OP does have options to address their issue other than blaming Canon for lack of haptic feedback.

The OP can take actions to train the shooters to use the back-button focus if the think the shooters thinking they are depressing the shutter half-way for focus and are really fully depressing it.  If they don't want to use back-button focus they can train them to know half-pressed versus full pressed shutter release.  They can also train the shooters to keep their eye in the camera (assuming the R5 has something similar to the R6 Mark II) and observe when the camera is shooting frames.  If the R5 has no similar feature they can request something be added to the R5 via a firmware update.  Or they can upgrade to a camera that does have the feedback like the R6 Mark II.   

Any of these are real solutions to their problem.  Lack of haptic feedback is not a realistic root cause nor a solution to even be wishing for.


>> Owns/Owned both Canon EOS mirrorless full-frame and APS-C cameras and associated RF, RF-S and EF adapted lenses - inventory tends to change on short notice. Same for flashes, tripods, bags, straps, etc.
Plus>> Canon imagePROGRAF PRO-1100 Printer
>>The opinions and assistance are my own. Please don't blame Canon for any mistakes on my part.
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