EOS R5 Mark II limitations from LP-E6NH battery

[Bazsl]

Is there an official list of R5 II features that will not work if you use the LP-E6NH battery from the original R5? The only thing I have found so far is that you cannot shoot 8k video. Is that the only feature that requires the new battery? Thanks.

[JFG]

Hello Bazsl,

The good news is that the new LP-E6P battery comes in the box with the new R5 Mark II camera body, along with a new LC-E6 charger.  Also, the price of the new LP-E6P battery is the same as the LP-E6NH, $79.99.  LP-E6P Features/Description:  "Maximize the potential of your Canon EOS R5 Mark II with the LP-E6P rechargeable, high-amperage, lithium-ion battery.  Designed to drive the R5 Mark II's 45MP stacked backside-illuminated CMOS sensor as well as the DIGIC X and DIGIC accelerator processor duo, this battery is compatible with Canon LC-E6 and LC-E6E battery chargers".   My question is, if you're going to spend $4,299.00 on a R5 Mark II camera, which as mentioned comes with an LP-E6P in the box, why would you not spend $79.99 for an extra LP-E6P battery?  Why would you want to use an LP-E6NH battery that's not the recommended battery for the R5 Mark II.  Canon developed the LP-E6P for the R5 MK2 for a reason.  I have an R6 MK2 with extra LP-E6NH batteries, however, when I preordered the R5 MK2, I also preordered extra LP-E6P batteries.  When I receive my new R5 MK2, I will have the right extra batteries for it, as recommended.  I for one will follow the manufacturer's instructions when it comes to batteries to use as I want to optimize the performance of the product, especially when there are no price differences or any other benefit to going with a battery that is not meant for the R5 Mark II.  Just my thoughts.

[jsk53]

The reason to want to use the R5 batteries in an R5MKII is simple, you may have a number of them you already paid for. For example, I have 2 R5's and 6 LP-E6NH batteries. So that's $480 worth of spare batteries.  I have an R5 MkII on order, yes with a spare battery, but it would be nice not to have to spend another $400 for batteries if the LP-E6NH will work.  Don't care about 8k video, or 4k for that matter.  

Thiis also leads to another question, will the LP-E6P battery work in the R5's? The chargers are interchangeable so the assumption is more power in the R5 would work.

[Tronhard]

Given the different energy levels in the two batteries required for the enhanced electronics in the R5II, while the LP-E6NH might work for a while, I expect it will drain very quickly and that will immediately start to degrade your focusing and tracking performance as you shoot.  The same was true for the R5 with the LP-E6N  batteries.   There was a noticeable drop-off in performance, particularly tracking and FPS when the batter was partially drained.

[jsk53]

Makes sense. Thanks. However I have used the LP-E6N batteries in my R5's and did not notice any reduction in focus speed or FPS.  It was clear they did not last as long, but long enough.

I understand the benefit of the LP-E6P and will most likely grab additional batteries. However, with that said, the additional power of the LP-E6P should not be an issue in the R5.  My goal in transitioning to the R5 MkII instead of the R1 was to keep from having to pack two battery systems and chargers. 

Thanks for the insight.

[JFG]

jsk53,

I agree with Trevor.  Below are the LP-E6P specs on the Canon R5 Mark II Manual, that's on the web, (Battery Specs):

• LP-E6 cannot be used. Use of LP-E6P is recommended. When using the LP-E6NH/LP-E6N, the network (Wi-Fi/Ethernet) functions and multi-function shoe accessories that require heavy power supply from the camera cannot be used. Pre-continuous shooting, HDMI RAW output, and dual shooting (still & movie) are not available. Continuous shooting speed may be reduced. During movie recording, resolution, image quality, and frame rate are limited. For details, refer to Supplemental Information for EOS R5 Mark II on the Canon website: (http://cam.start.canon).

• With one power source in the battery grip, or without a battery grip

  	Without a Battery Grip	Battery Grip BG-R20	Cooling Fan CF-R20EP	Battery Grip BG-R20EP	Battery Grip BG-R10
  Battery Pack LP-E6P	○	○	○	○	△*2*3
  Battery Pack LP-E6NH/LP-E6N	△*2*3	△*2*3	△*2*3*4	△*2*3	△*2*3
  Battery Pack LP-E6*1	×	×	×	×	×
  DC Coupler DR-E6P	○	○	○	○	△*2*3

• With two power sources in the battery grip

  Power Source 1	Power Source 2	Battery Grip BG-R20	Cooling Fan CF-R20EP	Battery Grip BG-R20EP	Battery Grip BG-R10
  Battery Pack LP-E6P	Battery Pack LP-E6P	○	○	○	△*2*3
  	Battery Pack LP-E6NH/LP-E6N	△*2*3	△*2*3*4	△*2*3	△*2*3
  	Battery Pack LP-E6*1	×	×	×	×
  Battery Pack LP-E6NH/LP-E6N	Battery Pack LP-E6NH/LP-E6N	△*2*3	△*2*3*4	△*2*3	△*2*3
  	Battery Pack LP-E6*1	×	×	×	×
  DC Coupler DR-E6P	-	○	○	○	△*2*3

1: Cannot be used as a power source.

2: Network connectivity (Wi-Fi/wired LAN) not available.

3: Reduces continuous shooting speed and prevents selection of 8K DCI/8K UHD/RAW/SRAW movie recording size, Fine image quality, and 239.76/200.00/119.88/100.00/59.94/50.00 fps frame rates.
HDMI RAW output, still photo shooting during movie recording, High Frame Rate movies, and pre-continuous shooting are not available.

4: Cooling fan cannot be used.

I hope the aforementioned helps.  🙂

[JFG]

Jsk53 

The R5 and the R5 mark II, for all itents and purposes are two different cameras with two different battery requirements.  What worked well on the R5 per the Canon manual found on the web will not work with the R52. (The Canon website has yet to post the official Canon R5 Mark II manual), so I'm going by the manual that you read.  Having said that, once the new R52 that you purchased is delivered it will be yours to use it as you will.  When my R52 is delivered, I don't plan to experiment with batteries as I'm going to use the Canon recommended LP-E6P.   If you plan to experiment with your R52 and find that Canon is wrong, please, let us know.

[shadowsports]

Greetings,

There is no official list I am aware of.  Canon has not released the camera yet.  There is no official documentation.  The manual where you (may have) viewed this information is not official until Canon posts it to the R52's support page. Is what you found accurate?  Maybe, probably.   

The LP-E6NH is 2130mah and 7.2 v

The LP-E6P is claimed 2130mah and 8.4v (unconfirmed).

I've read older cameras (if compatible) will need new firmware to use it. 

Less than a month to go  😃

[egaryw]

I don't think anyone actually answered your question, the New LP-E6P battery will enable you to discharge quicker, meaning it will be able to handle larger current at a particular time. The spec off the battery is the same capacity of 2130 mAh with a higher maximum continuous discharge current with allowing a discharge of up to 6 A. This means that only functions on the camera that draw the higher current will not work. This also means that if the higher current draw is utilized the battery will also discharge faster as the capacity is the same.