Camera Body Upgrade, old lens compatibility

[theAfanc]

Hello!  I have a Rebel T6i that i have been using for years.  I am ready to upgrade and i am looking at the 6D Mark II and the R7.  

I admit i dont know a whole lot about the models and the numbers and what lines are which and what cameras are more advanced.  These two are just in my general price range and have popped up on many "best camera" lists.

I believe the 6D is a DSLR and the R7 is mirrorless.  I read on another post that DSLR are making their way out of fashion and mirrorless is the way to go.  My dilema.  I have 7 lenses for my t6i that i want to be able to continue using o  my new camera.  I know there are adaptors bit i just really, really want to make sure before i make any large purchases.  

I have 

• Canon 75-300 Kit Lens
• Canon EFS 18-55 Kit Lens 
• Canon EF 85
• Tokina atx-1 11-16 2.8 CF Wide Angle
• Tokina AT-X Pro Macro 100 F2 8D
• Yongnuo  YN 50mm F1.8

Much open to advice!!

[jack598henry]

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@theAfanc wrote:

Hello!  I have a Rebel T6i that i have been using for years.  I am ready to upgrade and i am looking at the 6D Mark II and the R7.  

I admit i dont know a whole lot about the models and the numbers and what lines are which and what cameras are more advanced.  These two are just in my general price range and have popped up on many "best camera" lists.

I believe the 6D is a DSLR and the R7 is mirrorless.  I read on another post that DSLR are making their way out of fashion and mirrorless is the way to go.  My dilema.  I have 7 lenses for my t6i that i want to be able to continue using o  my new camera.  I know there are adaptors bit i just really, really want to make sure before i make any large purchases.  

I have 

• Canon 75-300 Kit Lens
• Canon EFS 18-55 Kit Lens 
• Canon EF 85
• Tokina atx-1 11-16 2.8 CF Wide Angle
• Tokina AT-X Pro Macro 100 F2 8D
• Yongnuo  YN 50mm F1.8

Much open to advice!!

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Hello,

You're right about the 6D Mark II being a DSLR and the R7 being mirrorless. Mirrorless cameras are indeed becoming more popular due to their compact size and advanced features2.

Regarding your lenses, the good news is that Canon EF lenses are compatible with both DSLR and mirrorless cameras. However, you'll need an adapter to use them on the R73. Here's a quick overview:

• Canon EF lenses (like your 85mm and 100mm) will work with the R7 using an EF-EOS R adapter.

• Canon EF-S lenses (like your 18-55mm and 75-300mm) can also be used with the R7, but they will operate in crop mode due to the smaller APS-C sensor.

Would you like more details on the differences between the 6D Mark II and the R7, or do you have any other questions?

Best regards,
Jack Henry

[deebatman316]

The EOS R7 is APS-C so auto cropping won’t happen. Now the Yongnuo 50mm F/1.8 lens IS NOT COMPATIBLE with newer cameras past the EOS Rebel T6i. It often won’t AF and you can’t control the aperture even cause the camera to lock up. EF 75-300mm F/4-5.6 III lens is too slow. The aperture and AF motor are too slow to keep up on any modern camera. Not to mention that the optical quality of the lens is very poor. I’d recommend selling off this lens. None of your APS-C lenses will work on the EOS 6D Mark II they won’t mount. Also do you have any flash requirements neither of these cameras have a built in flash. So you must use an external speedlite/ flash. The EOS R7 is the only APS-C body without a built in flash. 3rd Party lens compatibility is NOT Guaranteed by Canon. It’s up to the 3rd Party manufacturer. Regardless of being the same mount or adapted. A lot of older lenses ARE NOT FULLY COMPATIBLE with the highly advanced AF system found in the EOS R Series. Features such as 12 fps, movie servo AF, Dual Pixel AF, slow focus transition, smooth aperture transition. Are some features not supported by older lenses.

[shadowsports]

Greetings,

Congrats on the decision to upgrade.  Here are some thoughts.  There are big differences between a 6DmkII and R7.  Not just the DSLR vs. mirrorless difference, but also one is full frame and the other APS-C.  

3 of your lenses are intended for full frame, 3 are intended for APS-C.  Full frame lenses can usually work well on APS-C based body's.  EF-S or your Tokina ATX (APS-C) lenses cannot be mounted to a full frame DSLR like a 6DmkII.  They can be adapted to a (recommend Canon adapter) APS-C mirrorless body, like the R7, or a full frame mirrorless body with the following considerations/limitations.

If these were Canon brand lenses, I'd be a little more confident in their compatibility and performance.  Since they are not, compatibility cannot be 100% guaranteed.  EF/EF-S lenses utilize slower communication speeds than their RF/RF-S (mirrorless counterparts).  This can affect focus acquisition speed, subject tracking, max frame rates, etc.  They may or may not work seamlessly when shooting video.  Not trying to scare you, just setting realistic expectations.

Second, mounting (or adapting) lenses intended for an APS-C based body on a full frame mirrorless body will force the camera into crop mode.  This is not typically desirable since you are effectively reducing the resolution (megapixels) your full frame camera is capable of capturing.  Example.  The R6mkII has a 24MP full frame sensor.  If you mount a lens intended for an APS-C body on it, your capture resolution becomes 9.3MP.  Can this work?  Maybe in some situations depending on what you plan to do with your output.  Is it a direction I would suggest someone go in, no.   

The equivalent FOV is changed when you mount a full frame lens on an APS-C body.  The focal length of the lens does not change, but the field of view is not the same.  Example, your EF 75-300 mounted on your T6i has a FOV equivalent of 120 - 480mm.

Last, you may want to part with some of your lenses.  This might help offset the capital expense of a new body and even a new lens or two.  I'm sure you will have questions after reading this.  Please tell us more about the type of photography you do most.  Sports, wildlife, landscapes and architecture, and what is your budget for this endeavor?

[theAfanc]

Thank you everyone for the replies!  It is a lot to think about.

Most of the photography i do would fall into the sports or shaded candid photography.  I do historical re-enactment and take pictures of our fighting and also courts which are often under pavilions or even at night and my current set up is really bad with low light and night and the blur factor is a big one as well.  I used to do a lot of macro flower photography and would really love to get back into that and bird photography.

This might seem like an odd list but the things that are most important to me are:

• being able to take pictures very quickly with a continuous shooting setting.  Especially during fighting, i tend to just hold the button down and get like 20 shots at once then go through them in edits.
• Weight, not something i consider before but i used a friends D6mkii yesterday and it was a lot heavier then im used to.   I could probably get used to it but sometimes events are 2 hours that im standing and taking pictures.
• Loudness, i find my t6i to be very loud, especially when i continuous shoot.  It can disturb the atmosphere of what i shoot so something with a quieter would be swell
• Lighting, like i said, i do a lot of low light and there have been times ive just been completely unable to capture an event because there wasnt enough light.

I honestly hadn't even thought about selling off some of my current lenses. I have sentimental attachment to some of them because they were gifts from my dad who got me into photography. So was the t6i itself. And I intend to keep that as a backup camera, or to take it to events I'm a little less comfortable taking a more expensive camera to.  My most used lens is the 50mm off brand, but it is also damaged and the auto focus no longer works.  

I am also completely open to other bodies if there is something im not seeing that would better fit my needs.  I honestly dont know much of the technical terms, especially when looking at specs.  My budget is around $1000 and that would need to include the adapter.  But i am also very haply going with a refurbished body which drops the price of both these bodies under my budget.  I had also bene looking at bodies only and not the kits, if that makes a difference.

I think that was everything that was asked?

[deebatman316]

Do you want to stay with APS-C or move to Full Frame. Canon has the EOS R7 for $849 currently refurbished you can find it HERE and its under your budget. Personally I would move on from DSLRs because who knows how much longer will it be supported. Everything has moved on to mirrorless which has more support for it over DSLRs. Canon has DISCONTINUED the EOS 6D Mark II. Is Full Frame something you're considering. Most Full Frame cameras such as the EOS R8 start at $1000. Just for the body alone and that is a refurbished unit not a new one. The EOS R8 is an entry level Mirrorless Full Frame camera. The EOS 6D Mark II is an entry level DSLR Full Frame camera. Keep in mind that 3 of your lenses won't work on that camera at all.