No 3rd party RF Lenses...

[greeneyes_516]

This is a Deal Breaker for me. I am still using DSLR and it will still be a little while before I get a mirrorless camera because of budget. This news is going to make me look into getting Nikon or Sony, if when I go to a mirrorless camera, if I can't get 3rd party RF lenses for Canon. Since the beginning, I have been using Canon. From my first 35mm Film camera, then stepped up to DSLR with the Canon Rebel XTI. Few years later got the Canon 60D and then got the Canon 80D. When I got the 80D, I started to try to get better lenses. So I do have the Canon 24-70 L and got the Tamron 70-210 F4, I also have 2 Sigma lenses. I am on a limited budget. I finally stepped up to Full Frame with the Canon 6D Mark II. I will say that I am happy with all the photos that I have been able to get with my cameras over the years, but I am not a Fan Boy. For a matter of fact, I have recommended a friend to get a Nikon camera, because of what they were wanting to use it for and to stay with in their budget. I have used friends Nikon cameras in the past and was totally happy with those cameras. When people ask for a recommendation on a camera, I just tell them to stay with a Major brand so they have options in the future for expanding their equipment. In the future I will get a mirrorless camera and to start off with, I was going adapt my current lens to the Camera. But will be wanting to get mirrorless lenses when money allows. There is no way I can afford to get any L series Canon RF lenses, so this will be a deal breaker for me. This will make me sell off my Canon equipment, and go with Nikon or Sony, depending on which one has the options that I want at my price. A sad day for Canon.

[Tronhard]

If that is how you look at this as a hate page for those who are disgruntled then no amount of logical debate will help you.  Perhaps just go buy a Sony for which your preferred lens is designed and then go enjoy photography.

[Oz]

Not looking for a debate, just native third-party options.  

[joshcruz]

I have been shooting with Canon for two decades. Since a year ago, I started using Sony. As a result, I've hardly used my R7 and R6Mii the past six months. Sony FF has been liberating to use. I can go high end or midrange and nearly all the native lenses are good. The Tamron or Samyang 35-150mm, the ultrawide Viltrox 16mm 1.8, etc. They bring out the best in my Sony bodies. Bad enough that Canon's top of the line maxing out at 45mp vs Sony's 61mp. Worse that the cost of Canon RF system ownership has become more prohibitive just because Canon continues to behave like the big pharma of photography. Even Nikon which is also late in the FF mirrorless game has opened up the Z mount!

[Tronhard]

In that case, I sincerely suggest  you just move to Sony full time - really, I doubt there is nothing we can say, and Canon can practically do that will be likely to make you happy.  I have provided a list of lenses from some months back to prove that Canon have not locked everyone out of the market as you suggest - it's just not true.  I have also told  you why any OEM will not open their mounts up, but all that has fallen on deaf ears.
I shoot Sony as well, and I respect their gear along with Fuji, Nikon and Olympus.  They are ALL good camera makers, or they would not have a market, and each has its strengths, but in the end it's down to the shooter. 
Nikon have released their mount like Canon on a case by case basis, so you would be drawing a long bow to suggest they have 'opened up' the Z mount - they have not.  They are in precisely the same position as Canon.
All that said, I wish you good luck and good shooting with whatever you use!

[Waddizzle]

Canon critics like to point to Sony as an example of how “opening the mount to third party lenses” should be done.  Sony is actually a bad example to use.  They obviously do not know the history of the Sony E-Mount.

Sony announced their E-mount in 2010, but the first camera bodies did not reach the market until 2011.  Sony had zero lens production capacity.  Sony subcontracted Hasselblad and Leica to manufacture the initial lineup of Sony branded lenses.  

Two years after the initial release of “Sony” E-mount lenses, subcontractors Hasselblad and Leica began introducing a few E-mount lenses under their own brand names.  The lenses were not the best bang for the buck.

Most Sony users would use an EF-Mount adapter to use Canon lenses.  This practice continued until the 2017-2019 time frame when third party lenses for the Sony E-Mount really took off.  

Sony had worked out the last of the kinks and had finally developed their lens production facilities.  Note that when third party E-Mount lenses really began to the market in 2017-2019, this was about some 6 to 8 years after the Sony E-Mount was introduced.  Canon is operating on a MUCH faster timeline than what Sony ever did.

Canon has every right to protect their investment into R&D. and fill out their lineup of RF lenses before opening it up to third party lenses.  After all, this is exactly what Sony did. 

But some manufacturers began producing and selling third party products without proper licensing agreements with Canon.  These cheap, imported products were a public relations and warranty service nightmare for Canon.

The third party products were causing R Series bodies to malfunction, produce error codes, and in many causes actually damage camera bodies.  So Canon enforced the IP, and forced the cheap imported products off store shelves.

Those are the actual facts, AFAIK.  Canon never issued any public statements as to the motive behind prohibiting third party lenses.  My explanations of Canon’s motives are speculation and based upon observations.

You are not the first forum member to threaten they will change brands if Canon does not allow third party lenses.  It seems that you feel a 60MP camera with a frame rate of 8-10 fps is superior to a 45MP camera with a frame rate of 20 fps.  You are entitled to your opinions.

[joshcruz]

Your responses are typical cherry picking to defend Canon as if you do it for a living. Bottomline today, Canon is photography's big pharma by keeping the RF mount shut to non-Canon lens aside from less than a handful MF lenses. I can only punish Canon by diminishing the business I give it. How many times have famous brands so successfully made us drink from their Kool-aid fountain. Go slow guys, you're close to getting drunk.

[Tronhard]

Cherry picking is not providing clear data, that you want to ignore.  I have said that I doubt we can say anything to convince you and your closed and emotive responses are not a hallmark of a collegial debate.  Time for us all to move on, I think.  I am encouraging you to get the gear that works for you and hope you are happy with it, so I guess in that respect we are in agreement - buy Sony!

[joshcruz]

Cherry picking is using only the data that proves your narrow point, shoving aside the larger data that points to the larger conclusion that there is nearly ZERO NON-CANON RF LENS today, end of story. You don't get to dictate when people move on or move forward. Do you read at all btw? Buy Sony when I'm already invested in both systems as I previously wrote?

[Tronhard]

Sending emotive posts and abusing those who offer data when you only offer biased opinions vitriol is not helping anyone. This is a pointless discussion.  I will ignore you from now on.

[ebiggs1]

Look here is the point. Who buys a camera just so they can use off brand lenses and/or gear. In my life long photography experience I never thought I am going to buy a Canon Rebel camera so I can use a Tokina lens on it. 

I did enter my "hobby" years, retirement years, where I bought many upon many lenses for my own satisfaction and curiosity. Probably around a hundred or so maybe more. I have lost count by now!  How many made it into my bag? Currently three, yes, only three. What are they you might ask just out of curiosity the Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Sports Lens, Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 DG OS HSM Sports Lens and the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art Lens. The reason for the mentioned first two is, Canon doesn't make either of those lenses. The reason for the last, 35mm, is because it is the sharpest lens on the planet. All the rest have been sold on for one reason or another. So an off brand lens option whether it happens or not is a lousy reason for choosing a camera body, IMHO

Withe the advent of the R series and RF lens line up Canon has seen the missed opportunities and has filled the gap that was present in the EF lens line up. Even though, I suggest you take Trevor's advice and go Sony if that floats your boat and get on with it instead of bashing Canon for what may or may never become reality. I also agree with one of the other of my compatriots, it is only a matter of time before we see Sigma and Tamron making high quality RF lenses.