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DPP4 noise reduction isn't the greatest

lolson1512
Contributor

There are many elements of Canon's DPP4 that I love - especially when you are starting with a RAW file. You can do so many adjustments to your images. But, the noise reduction feature is not the greatest, in my opinion. When I try to reduce noise, say, in my night sky images, it seems to 'smooth over' other items in the photo a bit too much. (Ex - trees) Does this happen to anyone else?  In this photo I still ended up with the horizontal lines in the sky even though I thought I had plenty of light in the M50 Pancake lens. I may have to just suck it up and pay for a decent editor. Thanks for any info or opinions!IMG_1094-4.jpg

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shadowsports
Legend
Legend

Greetings and Welcome.

I see the softness, but your image looks very nice. Your camera has a limit of the DR its capable of capturing and there is only so much bumping your ISO can do.  Its APS-C has smaller photosites packed a little more closely together and thus less light gathering capability.  If you enjoy night time photography, a body with a full frame sensor could help.

For more denoise capability in post, take a look at Topaz Photo AI or DxO PhotoLab (my favorite).  DPP is my faithful back up when I'm on the road.  

~Rick
Bay Area - CA


~R5 C (1.0.6.1) ~RF Trinity, ~RF 100 Macro, ~RF 100~400, ~RF 100~500, +RF 1.4x TC, +Canon Control Ring, BG-R10, 430EX III-RT ~DxO PhotoLab Elite ~DaVinci Resolve ~Windows11 Pro ~ImageClass MF644Cdw/MF656Cdw ~Pixel 8
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p4pictures
Mentor
Mentor

Also worth a try is the Denoise function in the latest versions of Adobe Camera RAW in both Lightroom and Photoshop. I have found this works remarkably well if you are already a Lightroom or Photoshop user. 


Brian - Canon specialist trainer, author and photographer
https://www.p4pictures.com
I use British not American English, so my spellings may be a little different to yours

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shadowsports
Legend
Legend

Greetings and Welcome.

I see the softness, but your image looks very nice. Your camera has a limit of the DR its capable of capturing and there is only so much bumping your ISO can do.  Its APS-C has smaller photosites packed a little more closely together and thus less light gathering capability.  If you enjoy night time photography, a body with a full frame sensor could help.

For more denoise capability in post, take a look at Topaz Photo AI or DxO PhotoLab (my favorite).  DPP is my faithful back up when I'm on the road.  

~Rick
Bay Area - CA


~R5 C (1.0.6.1) ~RF Trinity, ~RF 100 Macro, ~RF 100~400, ~RF 100~500, +RF 1.4x TC, +Canon Control Ring, BG-R10, 430EX III-RT ~DxO PhotoLab Elite ~DaVinci Resolve ~Windows11 Pro ~ImageClass MF644Cdw/MF656Cdw ~Pixel 8
~CarePaks Are Worth It

Thank you, all good information. I am learning more and more that a full frame camera is the better way to go, I will also check out that DxO. Appreciate it very much!

p4pictures
Mentor
Mentor

Also worth a try is the Denoise function in the latest versions of Adobe Camera RAW in both Lightroom and Photoshop. I have found this works remarkably well if you are already a Lightroom or Photoshop user. 


Brian - Canon specialist trainer, author and photographer
https://www.p4pictures.com
I use British not American English, so my spellings may be a little different to yours

justadude
Rising Star
Rising Star

While DDP4 is a nice editor, I agree about the noise reduction not being the best - as well as a couple other features.  The newest Lightroom Denoise features offer quite a bit of control.  I find it to be the best option for noise on night sky photography.  

The downside of course is that it is a subscription plan (vs. DDP4 for free), but if you go for the $9.99/month Photographers Plan you get both Lightroom and Photoshop... as well as Camera Raw, Bridge, and Premier Rush.


Gary

Digital: Canon R6 Mk ll, R8, RP, 60D, various RF, EF, and Rokinon lenses
Film: (still using) Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax K1000, Pentax K2000, Miranda DR, Zenit 12XP, Kodak Retina Automatic II, Kodak Duaflex III, and various lenses
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