12-23-2017 09:49 PM
Great to be here. I'm a novice and hobbyist shooting with a 77D. I currently just own a 50mm 1.4 lens. I'm looking to assemble my own kit, but I'm not sure which lens to purchase next. I know I'd love a versatile lens that can handle low-light situations such as concerts, but can also be used as an everyday lens. I was looking at the 24-70mm 2.8L, but it's worth more than my soul. Haha. If I were to purchase this lens, would I still need any additional prime lenses? I was thinking of getting the 35mm f/2 and the 85mm 1.8 instead of the 24-70. So many options, and tough to decide where to go next. Anybody have any advice? Thank you to all!
12-23-2017 10:57 PM - edited 12-23-2017 11:03 PM
I love that you started with a bright prime.
With a crop sensor i'd shy away from 24-70 because the 24mm wide end is like 35mm field of view. Not wide enough. That is supposed to be your walk around lens.
Look at EF-s 17-55 f/2.8. Sharp as heck, constant bright f/2.8 aperture, and the zoom range is optimized for crop sensor. That was my walk around before I sold my crop body.
12-23-2017 10:59 PM - edited 12-24-2017 07:51 AM
The first thing you probably need to understand is the difference between APS-C and full frame sensors. When you use a EF lens on an APS-C body, the focal length of the lens changes by a factor of 1.6x. So a 24-70mm will be a full frame equivlent of 38-112mm when used on a APS-C body.
With that said, The 24-70 f2.8L is a great lens. Its a highly versitile multipurpose lens that can be used in a great deal of shooting situations. Sometimes a prime is the best option, but a zoom allows you the flexibility to shoot both wide and close without having to chqnge a lens for each shooting situation. The 24-70 is an excellent choice for an everyday walk-around lens and an excellent foundation as you start to build your lens collection. With a crop body, you may want to consider a EF-S lens which are designed specifically for APS-C (crop) body cameras.
Scott and I posted right over each other... but as you can see, we both are recommending the same thing.
12-23-2017 11:07 PM - edited 12-23-2017 11:08 PM
Thanks, guys. I appreciate it!
The only reason I'm avoiding EF-S lenses is in case I upgrade to a full frame camera, I'd want lenses I could actually use on it. Otherwise, they'd probably be just sitting around.
12-23-2017 11:11 PM
In that case, the 24-70 would be great.
12-24-2017 12:08 AM
ScottyP, do you know if the 24-70 remains sharp through the entire focal length? Or is there a specific point where it looks the best?
Any lens has a specific point of maximum sharpness, typically near the bottom of its zoom range and near the middle of its aperture range. But the 24-70 f/2.8L, at least in its Mark II version, is a very sharp lens. If you buy it, you shouldn't find yourself avoiding any part of its zoom or aperture ranges. A number of us in this forum have that lens, and I think we all like it a lot.
Whether the 24-70 is an ideal walkaround lens on an APS-C camera is another matter; I favor the 17-55mm f/2.8 IS myself. But I certainly see your point about planning for a possible FF conversion. Note, however, that if you have only one FF body and are photographing, say, a two-camera event, an APS-C camera with the 17-55 pairs well with a FF camera with a 70-200mm telephoto.
12-24-2017 01:53 AM
Not knowing for sure your direction, FF or not, I would avoid primes. They are simply too hard to use and are too limited in there use. Primes should come after you have established your ultimate goal.
The Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM Lens is the best lens...........made! Yeah, probably is right now considering all it does.
The 77D is essentially a warmed up Rebel T7i. It is a good platform and one that you can build upon. Personally I don't understand why Canon came out with both. One reason they also have the excellent 80D, who knows? However like I said it is a good starting point and even a good ending point. With smart choice of lenses I would prefer the 77D over the FF, 6D Mk II and greatly over the older 6D.
What lenses? Two come to mind right off. The EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens and the excellent, perhaps best choice, Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM Art Lens for Canon. Both are less costly than the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM Lens by more than half. That means you can have more lenses! That, my friend, is another point in favor of staying with the 77D platform.
Still, if your goal is for the best and you want a pro level no kidding lens you have no better choice than the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM Lens! FF in your future or not, this lens is as good as it gets. Period!