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Re: Do you delete your CR2s?


@ebiggs1 wrote:

" I have no such reason to retain hundreds of thousands of images..."

 

Ask yourself, who will want them and who will go through and sort them later on.  Be honest with yourself.  In my case I don't see anybody.  Maybe its sad but.....................


It is not sad at all. One can have many loving family members and friends, but perhaps none would have the time or technical wherewithal to access and evaluate hundreds of thousands of client and personal photos. As you say, the photos that would be most meaningful to your family have been passed on to them already. That is a step that too many negliect, but you have seen to it. Kudos!

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Re: Do you delete your CR2s?


@John_SD wrote:

@ebiggs1 wrote:

"The space the CR2s take is irrelevant. The last time I bought an 8TB hard drive, it cost about $200."

 

This has been my philosophy.  However lately I have questioned myself if it is rational?   6 drives now!  Close to 400,000 photos (just the last 17 years).  Who will ever go through them or even want to?  The ones that are relevant to me or my family are already out and into their hands.  My clients already have their media whether a print or digital file. I am getting closer to pulling the plug on those drives. I used to guarantee photos for 6 months.  Perhaps after the 6 month date they all get the file 13 treatment.


Your reasoning is wise and sound, IMO. As a longtime pro with many clients, you likely had legitimate business reasons to retain those RAW files and whatnot over the years. But as you clearly observe, perhaps now a reasonable "expiration date" of 6 months would serve to eliminate those images that have long since served their purpose. 

 

As a mere amateur and enthusiast I have no such reason to retain hundreds of thousands of images, ever. I love photography, but I am my own worst critic, and even though I delete early and often, I am stil surprised at how much space my existing CR2s take up. I do not want to reach a point of becomming a hoarder like some of the guys. That is a serious condition that requires professional care. Thus, I am going thru my CR2s manually and deleting those that have been converted to my satisfaction. That approach works for me. 


We're starting to conflate two indepndent issues here: whether to save CR2s at all and how ruthlessly we should cull them if we do. I'm fine with getting rid of crappy pictures, duplicates, pictures that have outlived their usefulness, etc. But for any picture I really like, I would be willing to delete the JPEG (if I'm not using it as a screen background or something), but never the CR2. You can always regenerate the JPEG; you can't regenerate the CR2.

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Re: Do you delete your CR2s?

"...you can't regenerate the CR2."

Robert,

I think you are glossing over one major factor here.  It may not be a factor to you or most amateurs. Perhaps not even advanced amateurs but it does to people like me that shoot a lot or shoot for a living.  I mean shoot A LOT of photos. A 100 is not a lot, a 1000 is not a lot and 10,000 is not a lot even 100,000 is a lot.  If I manage another few years I will top 1/2 million pictures. That is just since I retired!  The sheer number makes it the more important factor.  Who will want them?  Who will go through them to see if they want them? I suspect the answer is nobody.  The folks that did want them already have them.

 

You know I love LR but the need for external HD's cause LR to slow down when you are dealing with 10,000's of files.  Cache size has to be increased, too. Neither is very difficult to over come buy just another reason why lots and lots of old cr2's is questionable. I haven't done it ye but my hand is close to pulling the plug!

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Re: Do you delete your CR2s?


@ebiggs1 wrote:

"...you can't regenerate the CR2."

Robert,

I think you are glossing over one major factor here.  It may not be a factor to you or most amateurs. Perhaps not even advanced amateurs but it does to people like me that shoot a lot or shoot for a living.  I mean shoot A LOT of photos. A 100 is not a lot, a 1000 is not a lot and 10,000 is not a lot even 100,000 is a lot.  If I manage another few years I will top 1/2 million pictures. That is just since I retired!  The sheer number makes it the more important factor.  Who will want them?  Who will go through them to see if they want them? I suspect the answer is nobody.  The folks that did want them already have them.

 

You know I love LR but the need for external HD's cause LR to slow down when you are dealing with 10,000's of files.  Cache size has to be increased, too. Neither is very difficult to over come buy just another reason why lots and lots of old cr2's is questionable. I haven't done it ye but my hand is close to pulling the plug!


Please don't misconstrue what I said, Ernie. I'm not opposed to culling CR2s. If you have pictures that are no longer of any use, it makes perfect sense to throw them out. What I'm saying is that if you're going to save a picture, it should be the CR2 file rather than the JPEG. John was, I believe, proposing to save only the JPEGs, because they're smaller. My take is that that's a bad idea because the information that was lost in the conversion to JPEG will be missed if you ever want to edit the pictures a different way. Unless you have a huge collection of indispensable pictures, the size difference shouldn't be a factor.

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Re: Do you delete your CR2s?

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No, Robert I understand thoroughly.  I am guiltily. I save and have saved everything.  I just keep adding drives.  The sheer amount of files is what is now a determining factor, however.  Most of you will not have that problem.  After a short period of time perhaps a month or two I can't ever remember going back to an old cr2 file and re-editing it.  My guarantee to clients is 6 months. Upon occasion people have asked for a print or replacement after the 6 months and LR has kept the edited file ready fro that purpose.  If the cr2 were to be gone I would lose that ability for sure but the edits done in LR stand. Not the cr2.

Last year a former bride came to me and explained they moved to a new house in a new city.  She said somehow her wedding photos were lost.   Can I, or could I replace them?  I did that wedding in 2010.  Well keeping the files as my habit is, of course, I had them and I made a former bride very happy again. No charge! That is rare but there is merit in keeping cr2's. But 99.9% of what I have nobody will ever want them. Nobody will want to spend the time going through them to see if they want any.  They already have what they want.

 

The school took this one.  Keep or delete?  Smiley Indifferent

 

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