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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video

Dswansonil I would love to know what you think of the ZS30 and HX50 when you get a chance to try them out. I'm looking at those also..

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video


@dswansonil wrote:

@scupking wrote:

Updated to 1.0.2.0 and as soon as I started taking video the red battery light started flashing. Turned the camera off and back on and shows full battery again. Also looks like the auto white balance is messed up on 1.0.2.0. White things come out as yellow now unless I manualy set the white balance......


So it still sounds like the battery power level reporting bug is still there and, as is almost classic with updates to complex systems, a new bug has appeared that their in-house testing didn't discover.  More egg on the Canon face.  I'm trying to find a local store that has both the Lumix ZS30 and the Sony HX50 so I can do a hands on comparision.  I really want an all-in-one still and video camera with decent battery life to avoid having to haul separates around.


Interesting. I haven't seen the battery warning yet, nor the white balance problem, after the update. As to your last sentence: Yes, that is the holy grail. I would love to find the same thing. But I'm increasingly convined that it's really not possible with current tech, at least in a camera body that'll fit in a shirt pocket. Packing all those power-sucking features into a camera powered by a battery that small just doesn't work. It's the same with mobile phone technology. People want -- or think they want -- 100 features in an electronic device, but there's a battery life price to be paid with every one of them. 

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video

I think I am going to wait with the update - no significant improvement of the existing problem and possibly a new bug introduced?  Yes, I need more input from you eager testers out there! ;-)

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video


@RCJ wrote:

@dswansonil wrote:

@scupking wrote:

Updated to 1.0.2.0 and as soon as I started taking video the red battery light started flashing. Turned the camera off and back on and shows full battery again. Also looks like the auto white balance is messed up on 1.0.2.0. White things come out as yellow now unless I manualy set the white balance......


So it still sounds like the battery power level reporting bug is still there and, as is almost classic with updates to complex systems, a new bug has appeared that their in-house testing didn't discover.  More egg on the Canon face.  I'm trying to find a local store that has both the Lumix ZS30 and the Sony HX50 so I can do a hands on comparision.  I really want an all-in-one still and video camera with decent battery life to avoid having to haul separates around.


Interesting. I haven't seen the battery warning yet, nor the white balance problem, after the update. As to your last sentence: Yes, that is the holy grail. I would love to find the same thing. But I'm increasingly convined that it's really not possible with current tech, at least in a camera body that'll fit in a shirt pocket. Packing all those power-sucking features into a camera powered by a battery that small just doesn't work. It's the same with mobile phone technology. People want -- or think they want -- 100 features in an electronic device, but there's a battery life price to be paid with every one of them. 


How is this possible?  Such an obvious problem with white balans and two people have it differently?

 

Heisenbugs?

 

Come on ...

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video


@scupking wrote:

Updated to 1.0.2.0 and as soon as I started taking video the red battery light started flashing. Turned the camera off and back on and shows full battery again. Also looks like the auto white balance is messed up on 1.0.2.0. White things come out as yellow now unless I manualy set the white balance......


I haven't seen the white balance problem.  What I have seen is that during movie capture, the lens seems to be slower at focusing on an object while zooming. The movies were shot indoors by panning around a room and focusing in on select objects. Also, while not zooming as I move the frame from a close object (a tree) to a far object (a house across the street), the camera seems to struggle more to get the correct object in focus. I have seen a video of the lumix ZS30 performing the same focusing and it handles it very well, but I remember the SX280 doing a pretty good job as well. All of this may be a function of lower light than I have had before while doing the same videos/tests

 

I took 5 stills and have shot eight minutes of video starting with a fully charged battery. I have zoomed much more than I would normally during video and the eight minutes of video is comprised of 5 short videos shot indoors. The low battery light has not flashed yet but I have seen one of the bars disappear on the battery level indicator during the last video.

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video

Interesting. I haven't seen the battery warning yet, nor the white balance problem, after the update. As to your last sentence: Yes, that is the holy grail. I would love to find the same thing. But I'm increasingly convined that it's really not possible with current tech, at least in a camera body that'll fit in a shirt pocket. Packing all those power-sucking features into a camera powered by a battery that small just doesn't work. It's the same with mobile phone technology. People want -- or think they want -- 100 features in an electronic device, but there's a battery life price to be paid with every one of them. 


I would be willing to trade size for battery life rather than demand a shirt pocket camera and would also be happy to buy AA or AAA lithium disposables rather than have a rechargeable.

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video


@filipb wrote:

@RCJ wrote:

@dswansonil wrote:

@scupking wrote:

Updated to 1.0.2.0 and as soon as I started taking video the red battery light started flashing. Turned the camera off and back on and shows full battery again. Also looks like the auto white balance is messed up on 1.0.2.0. White things come out as yellow now unless I manualy set the white balance......


So it still sounds like the battery power level reporting bug is still there and, as is almost classic with updates to complex systems, a new bug has appeared that their in-house testing didn't discover.  More egg on the Canon face.  I'm trying to find a local store that has both the Lumix ZS30 and the Sony HX50 so I can do a hands on comparision.  I really want an all-in-one still and video camera with decent battery life to avoid having to haul separates around.


Interesting. I haven't seen the battery warning yet, nor the white balance problem, after the update. As to your last sentence: Yes, that is the holy grail. I would love to find the same thing. But I'm increasingly convined that it's really not possible with current tech, at least in a camera body that'll fit in a shirt pocket. Packing all those power-sucking features into a camera powered by a battery that small just doesn't work. It's the same with mobile phone technology. People want -- or think they want -- 100 features in an electronic device, but there's a battery life price to be paid with every one of them. 


How is this possible?  Such an obvious problem with white balans and two people have it differently?

 

Heisenbugs?

 

Come on ...


No idea. All I know is I've shot 6-8 minutes of video with mine after the update, in about 20-sec segments, and white balance looks normal to me, both on the camera screen and on my monitor. Also no battery warning light yet, so that in itself is an improvement. 

 

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video


@dswansonil wrote:

Interesting. I haven't seen the battery warning yet, nor the white balance problem, after the update. As to your last sentence: Yes, that is the holy grail. I would love to find the same thing. But I'm increasingly convined that it's really not possible with current tech, at least in a camera body that'll fit in a shirt pocket. Packing all those power-sucking features into a camera powered by a battery that small just doesn't work. It's the same with mobile phone technology. People want -- or think they want -- 100 features in an electronic device, but there's a battery life price to be paid with every one of them. 


I would be willing to trade size for battery life rather than demand a shirt pocket camera and would also be happy to buy AA or AAA lithium disposables rather than have a rechargeable.


Me also.

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video

Performed the firmware update.  Took a long video.  No problems.  Looks like to me that the upgrade worked.

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Re: SX280 - battery life shooting video


@videophan wrote:

@scupking wrote:

Updated to 1.0.2.0 and as soon as I started taking video the red battery light started flashing. Turned the camera off and back on and shows full battery again. Also looks like the auto white balance is messed up on 1.0.2.0. White things come out as yellow now unless I manualy set the white balance......


I haven't seen the white balance problem.  What I have seen is that during movie capture, the lens seems to be slower at focusing on an object while zooming. The movies were shot indoors by panning around a room and focusing in on select objects. Also, while not zooming as I move the frame from a close object (a tree) to a far object (a house across the street), the camera seems to struggle more to get the correct object in focus. I have seen a video of the lumix ZS30 performing the same focusing and it handles it very well, but I remember the SX280 doing a pretty good job as well. All of this may be a function of lower light than I have had before while doing the same videos/tests

 

I took 5 stills and have shot eight minutes of video starting with a fully charged battery. I have zoomed much more than I would normally during video and the eight minutes of video is comprised of 5 short videos shot indoors. The low battery light has not flashed yet but I have seen one of the bars disappear on the battery level indicator during the last video.


In the update description it says that the battery gain of 20% is achieved "through a reduction in the power consumption of the optical zoom."  I wonder if the effects of focussing you notice have to do with that?

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