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Re: Which lens to get? 24-70 f/4 vs 24-105

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Re: Which lens to get? 24-70 f/4 vs 24-105

Thanks for the comments guys. I'm actually planning to use the lens mainly for landscapes (I live in Hawaii so there's a lot I could shoot). Portraits are going to be shot less often. Is the difference between the 24-70 f/4 and 24-105 pretty noticeable for landscapes?

And for tripods I'd pick inexpensive and stability. I plan to hike with my equipment but I'll be able carry all the gear. So any good ones around $150 or below?
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And if I end up getting the 24-105, is there a lens I could get around 24 that I could use to make up for the 24-105's weakness at 24? something I could use for astrophotography also (so I'm looking for a low f). I was looking at the 16-35 f/2.8 ii. Would it cover what I mentioned (and is it a great landscape lens)? What are your thoughts on that? It is pricey so do you know of cheaper places (than B&H) to buy it or alternatives that are similar to it?
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I'm actually planning to get a lens for astrophotgraphy anyway, so I figured I might as well get one that would also be good for landscapes during the day
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Thanks for the comments guys. I'm actually planning to use the lens mainly for landscapes (I live in Hawaii so there's a lot I could shoot). Portraits are going to be shot less often. Is the difference between the 24-70 f/4 and 24-105 pretty noticeable for landscapes?

And for tripods I'd pick inexpensive and stability. I plan to hike with my equipment but I'll be able carry all the gear. So any good ones around $150 or below?

You can find a decent tripod for that price.  But, that doesn't mean that it will fit what it is that you want to do, and the equipment that you want to haul and mount on it..  As far as weight goes, the one pound difference between carbon fiber and aluminum is meaningless to me.  I strap the tripod onto the side of my backpack, and having one extra pound doesn't make much of a difference to me. 

 

I also like having the extra weight in a tripod for the added stability.  I laugh because what is the first thing that someone does with a carbon fiber tripod to make it more steady?  They add weight bags to it.  Yeah, bags are not well suited for carrying around in the field, but a tripod that weighs 4 lbs, instead of 3, makes more sense to me.

 

I just checked  My favorite NYC superstore is offering a Benro tripod and head combo, which is rated to handle over 20 lbs, for just over your price point.  I think that setup is a very good buy at the moment.  It comes with a nice bag, tools, steel foot pegs, and a second short center column.  The head has a pan adjustment and the ball has a friction adjustment. 

 

I like Benro, and its' branded cousins, because they are very good setups, and are economically priced when they go on sale.  I have one branded as Induro, and it is solid as an oak tree.  It doesn't resonate in the breeze like a tuning fork.

 

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As for choice of lens, I think the Rokinon is economically priced and is great for astrophotography.  It may be a little too wide for some landscape shots, though.  I think it can still work for some landscape shots. 

 

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I was experimenting with HDR shots the other morning, just before sunrise.  This was shot with the cine version of the Rokinon 14mm f/2.8.

I think what you really want is two lenses, are trying to find one that can do it all.  Unless you spend top dollars, lens designs will always have a compromise built into them somewhere.  I'd say get the 14mm for stars, and find a separate lens for landscapes.  Be sure to check out the lens compartor tool, so that you can judge how rectilinear the images are with a given lens.  I think a nice straight, rectilinear lens will do better for landscape shots.  While you want to have a WIDE lens for astrophotography, which is at the opposite end of the scale.

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Thanks! I was looking into the rokinkon 14 mm but was a little worried since it's completely manual. I read some things about how to use manual lenses so hopefully I'll get the hang of it.

Do you know what the 16-35 f/2.8 ii is good for? I figured that 2.8 would be low enough for astro shots. And is it good for landscapes?
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I feel like the 24-70 f/4 and the rokinon 14 mm f/2.8 would be a good combo. 24-70 for landscapes and the 14mm for stars. What do you guys think?
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What do I think?  I think it is great that you're getting two specific lenses, instead of a single compromise that you hope can do both.  I am all for the Rokinon 14mm.  I have the cine version of it because I plan to use it for video on an APS-C body, and eventually on my FF for some shots of the night skies.

 

As far as your choice of zoom goes, I have the 24-105 f/4L.  It takes great pictures, and I love the wide range.  I am not a fan of it at 24mm, though.  I understand that the 24-70 has less distortion at 24mm than the 24-105.  But, the 105 has more reach.  I guess the choice will depend upon how you use it, mainly at the shorter or more at longer end.

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I'll be using it mostly for landscapes
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If you're mainly doing landscapes, then I'd go for the 24-70.  The on-line lens tool show the 70 has having a more rectilinear image at 24mm than the 105, which can definitley show barrel distortion if you take shots at just the right angle.

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