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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss


@JazzJ wrote:

And to throw yet another spanner in the works. Same day (maybe 15minutes apart), same lens, same body. Sharp. 13 Jan 21 Ni Andrade-3.jpg


That perhaps changes things. 

Which image was first - the good or the bad? Did maybe some water splash on the lens?

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

In looking at the first image, it appears soft all around and only sharp in the center.

 

e.g. if looking at the upper-most wave in the image (with the surfers) from left to right... it starts off soft, then the mist, water and middle surfer are sharp, but then softens as you move to the right.

 

Same for the breaking wave about 1/3 from the bottom.  Starts soft, then gets sharp near the middle, then soft again.

 

Since there's a decent distance from this breaking wave to the middle surfer, and the mist behind the middle surfer also being quite crisp, the DOF would have been large enough for the other surfer and other parts of those waves.

 

As mentioned earlier, try taking an image of a brick wall or some vertical surface with enough detail.  Have the lens be as perpendicular to the vertical surface as possible.   Try different apertures;  When wide open, lenses can exhibit softness near corners/edges, though I wouldn't think it would be this extreme on such a lens as yours.

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

Here's the two surfers in a screenshot from DPP and the downloaded .CR3 file.

 

Screenshot 2021-01-15 111903.jpg

 

Screenshot 2021-01-15 111829.jpg

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

The sharper one was taken first, but no water got on the lens. And inbetween there are sharp images and some with the same focal/ softness. I actually first noticed the softness last June on another surf trip. 

 

Could it be to do with maybe the camera's AF settings? Just thinking out loud. 

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

Exactly. It's almost as if it's vingetted, but with sharpness (if that makes sense).

 

I will do the brick wall test. Should be able to do it tomorrow and hopefully see something. I will try at different apertures as well as different focal lengths. 

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

"Did maybe some water splash on the lens?"

 

You may have something there. I loaded the Raw file into PS and enlarged it drastically. None of the image is really sharp.  It is as if the SS was very slow.  Star trails kinda stuff although exif says 1/4000. I don't think there is anything wrong with the lens. Something outside happened. I know it might be unlikely but camera motion? 

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

Maybe my IS is playing up and messing me around? 

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

According to the screen shots you are using One Shot AF.

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

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Re: Canon 70-200 - focal plane loss

Hi all,

 

Managed to do more research and finally tested with decent light and in a controlled environment. I suspect a decentered element.

Anyway, below are some images cropped to the bottom right where the issues/ softness occurs, at different focal lengths and apertures.

 

70mm f2-8.png

70mm f8.png

200mm b f4.png

200mm b f5-6.png

 

 

Noticeable clarity is lost af2.8 on edge of the frame, after f8 it seems to negligeable. I have contacted an authorised canon centre here now too, but with Covid restrictions, I'm not sure it will be repaired anytime soon. But atleast I may have found a work around for the time being.

 

Thank you to you all for your input and time. Feel free to offer any further suggestions if you have. 

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