03-10-2021 09:36 AM
"Do me a favor Canon and knock my socks off with your next release ..."
It sounds like you believe the other camera/lens companies don't have any issues or problems.
03-10-2021 12:11 PM
Read my thread again please.
What I said was... "It's a big decision to leave Canon and start over with another brand with it's own challenges."
That means I realize that other companies are not perfect either and have their own problems.
When you write the way you do, its feels like you are always on the attack. It does! (See what I did there?) Mirroring how you reply with your answer.
It sounds like you believe the other camera/lens companies don't have any issues or problems. They do!
Please take the time to read each thread before you post a reply. Not just pick out a sentence you want to dispute. You have disputed many of the things said here in the last 3 years on this thread. May I ask you a question because I see you are a long-time member of this forum and have almost 14,000 replies... Impressive! Do you work for Canon or why are you so reluctant to consider the thought that they may have made a mistake or have a design flaw in the product? You are always looking to put the blame on me or my use of the equipment. Do you think that Canon will always be your company of choice, or are you open to the possibilities that maybe at some point, it may be a better choice to move on. Maybe that time is now as I mentioned... we are moving into a whole new era of tech and this is a perfect time to evaluate and reassess our options. (Again... mentioned in my previous thread)
Try and make a positive contribution. We are all just trying to help each other.
03-12-2021 11:20 AM
"Try and make a positive contribution."
My reply was/is neither positive nor negative. It is neutral. No I am not a Canon employee. Never have been and to top that off I have been a strong critic when I see misconduct and screw ups on their part. I am sure some of the moderators here would confirm that. The worst recent lens, IMHO, Canon has made is the ef 16-35mm f2.8L II. I had to stop using mine.
It sounded like you thought only if you switched brands all would be fine. In that case, my advice is go for it. It is the only way to know. Perhaps my 16-35mm was a lemon. Perhaps your lens is too.
I have had or I currently have every version of the lens in question and have never had an issue. This is going back to the 28-70mm f2.8L So, please understand my point and experience. You do not use your gear any more or harder than I do. Maybe you are doing something wrong. Who knows?
03-12-2021 12:23 PM
Well, I have 3 of these lenses. 2 24-70 F2.8 II and a version I (original with reverse the reveres zoom movement).
Don't use old faithful much but it to has had the problem.
I shoot 2500 - 5000 images a week with them. So...130,000 to 260,000 images every year. And they continue to have this problem about every 6 months for the past 3 years. Consistently. Breaking that down... since I use the version II lenses and my version I as a backup these days.
Let's use the average of 195,000 images before a break down between 2 lenses. So, that would mean on average I am getting 97,500 images / lens / yea since I have 2 of them. Making it about 1,875 images / week for its work load. Week in and week out... 1,875 clickity clicks of the cameras they are attached to. (Oh, those would be the Canon 5D Mark III bodies if that has anything to do it?!?!?)
Is that how much you've been using your lens every week of the year?
If I am doing something wrong... there should be a way to replicate the problem I would think. Maybe I zoom in and out to much... maybe you don't zoom at all? Again... I don't know. I guess I could go thru my lightroom and start looking for a pattern using the number of images taken at each focal length looking for a pattern of use and break down?
Anybody out there that can tell me how one could use this lens in such a manner to make it break like this consistently... love to hear how?!!
03-12-2021 03:17 PM
You are considering switching brands now is your chance. Buy a Sigma, preferred, or a Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 and see if they fair better. The Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG OS HSM Art Lens is every bit as sharp as the Canon. It is build very well, too, so why not?
Instead of fighting the obvious poor IQ of my ef 16-35mm, I bought a Tokina 16-28mm f2.8 and am very happy with it. Seems silly to keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Whether your fault or Canon's.
03-12-2021 03:55 PM
This is what I have today... and the whole reason for this thread was to discover an answer. That being said, your solution to go with Sigma or Tamron would be something to consider if it wasn't for this whole llne of lenses and cameras right now becoming antiquated. One could argue the lifespan left. The pre vs post mirrorless age... but for me, it's nearing the end.
03-13-2021 12:01 PM
"I shoot 2500 - 5000 images a week with them. So...130,000 to 260,000 images every year."
With all due respect a person that shoots that amount and is that busy, a new lens purchase is just an entry in the ledger sheet. To continue to fight which seems to be a losing or at least an on going battle is futile, IMHO, of course. Again if you think switching brands will solve the problem that is the way I would go. I did and it did with the 16-35mm.
I am retired now so my daily shooting is a non-factor any more. I worked for Hallmark in KC for 40 years. I had my private photography business along side of Hallmark. I have no idea what a daily count was. We did whatever was needed. As a full time or part time photographer far more time is/was spent with LR and/or PS than any time spent behind the camera.
When I shot film for a wedding as example possibly four or five rolls. With digital perhaps several thousand. Then either hours in the darkroom or behind the computer.
03-16-2021 12:24 PM
Gotcha... I thought you said that I don't work my lenses harder than you do. And, you were speaking from expericne with this particular lens and problem.
As for the number of images I take and the amount of money I make... not sure how you think those two are related. Just more assumptions on your part on my business and expenses.
It's been a good chat with you but I think things are much clearer now.
Your experience with your business, different lenses and their particualar problems, plus shooting in film have nothing to do with what I am talking about. You're right... this is futile.
09-23-2021 06:07 PM