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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread

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Thanks Ernie and others...  appreciate everyone's feedback thus far.

 

This really says it all about LR (perpetual license)

 

 Or you can go to a 2 step method via DNG

 

MAC / Windows All Perpetual License -  All of them

 

 

Rick
Bay Area - CA
~6D2 (f/w 1.0.4) ~16-35mm f2.8L II, 50 f1.8 STM, 85 prime USM, 70-200 f2.8L IS II ~70-300 USM II ~Sigma 24-70 f2.8 Art (f/w 2.01)
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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread

You can research the heck out of this but in the end there is one important veriable that never makes into the reviews & that's how it's used when not mounted on a sturdy tripod. If you're going to hand hold any of them for long periods you'll be the weak link in the IQ chain. I shoot the Sigma C & although it gets heavy after a few hours it still delivers sharp images at my radio control flying events which are very demanding re panning & IS (or OS VC etc) being at their best.

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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread

Thanks cicopo,

Sigma C, I am starting to lean in that direction.  I have the dock, weight is reasonable, good IQ based on all the reviews I've read and watched.  Your recoimmendation too.  Zooms in the direction I'm accoustomed to as well..    

 

Many of the video reviews actually showed people shooting without a tripod.  Great results.  One guy was even shooting with a EF 600mm f4, and that dude is 8.4lbs.  That would be brutal though.    

Rick
Bay Area - CA
~6D2 (f/w 1.0.4) ~16-35mm f2.8L II, 50 f1.8 STM, 85 prime USM, 70-200 f2.8L IS II ~70-300 USM II ~Sigma 24-70 f2.8 Art (f/w 2.01)
~Sigma 150-600 C + TC1401 1.4x (f/w 1.03) ~Speedlite 430 EX II ~DxO PhotoLab Elite ~Windows10 Pro nVidia GPU 1803
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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread

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I have posted this before but here's the story. A very good friend & fellow Canon shooter has an aerobatic plane with the signatures of the Snowbird pilots plus ISS Comander Chris Hadfield on 1 wing. I have tried to get a nice clean shot at a few events using my standard 1/500 setting for prop blur & done very well but 2 summers ago I decided to use a BIF setting & this is the result. The plane is flying left to right in a set of constant rolls. I tried to time my shots so I would have goos sun but not a reflection as it performed each roll. 1 is the full frame & the other is a tight crop after processing in CS6. Canon 1D4, Sigma 150-600 C at 468 mm, ISO 200, 1/2000 Hand held  (I turned the full frame shot so that both views are at the same angle

 

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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread

I saw when you posted those images previously and enjoyed seeing the signatures on the left wing.  Quite a shot.  

 

So the SigC hasn't had a FW update since 2016, and it was mostly to improve compatibility with lens mount converters.  Also claims to quiet aperature lens blade noise during video.  I doubt I will shoot video with a lens of this FL. 

 

The Tamron G2 is on v1 FW.  No updates since it was released.  Did win best tele-photo zoom in 2017.  If that counts for anything.

 

B and H has the Tamron for $1299 after rebate.  I have another credit I can apply.  It includes a free Tap-In and B&W UV filter.  Lens is weather sealed and has newer flourine coatings. 

 

Sigma has a C refurb with 1.4x teleconverter for less than 1K, extra reach is enticing. 

 

Warranty is 6 yrs on Tamron, 90 days on Sig C Refurb.  Feeling like I am starting to over think this now.  Almost there.   

Rick
Bay Area - CA
~6D2 (f/w 1.0.4) ~16-35mm f2.8L II, 50 f1.8 STM, 85 prime USM, 70-200 f2.8L IS II ~70-300 USM II ~Sigma 24-70 f2.8 Art (f/w 2.01)
~Sigma 150-600 C + TC1401 1.4x (f/w 1.03) ~Speedlite 430 EX II ~DxO PhotoLab Elite ~Windows10 Pro nVidia GPU 1803
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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread

" Lens is weather sealed..."

 

Lens is 'slightly' weather sealed.  More splash resistant than anything.  It is not in the same category as a Canon 'weather' sealed lens.  It is, however, the best of the current crop.

 

"...B&W UV filter"

 

I am on and off again user of the use of a protective filter on these lenses.  I never use one on my Siggy S.  I do have filters for all the other 150-600mil zooms I have.  But they come off from time to time.  I don't know what B&H offered you but I would get the B+W 95mm Clear MRC 007M Filter for the big Tamron.

 

I do use and leave it on, the Tiffen 105mm Coarse Thread UV Protector Filter, on my Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 DG OS HSM Lens.

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Ernie,
Right. I realize they mean a few drips, and light moisture. My 24-70 Art is the same, but it did well in a few Russian rains. I don't subject my equipment to heavy rain, but having slightly above average dust and water resistence is nice.

Rick
Bay Area - CA
~6D2 (f/w 1.0.4) ~16-35mm f2.8L II, 50 f1.8 STM, 85 prime USM, 70-200 f2.8L IS II ~70-300 USM II ~Sigma 24-70 f2.8 Art (f/w 2.01)
~Sigma 150-600 C + TC1401 1.4x (f/w 1.03) ~Speedlite 430 EX II ~DxO PhotoLab Elite ~Windows10 Pro nVidia GPU 1803
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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread

Rick, if you wanted "weather proof" the Siggy Sport is the only game in town.  It is why I bought mine and why I use it most of the time.  It is heavy as stated before but I have gotten used to heavy gear a long long time ago.  I had a job durning hurrican Ivan a few years ago for instance.

 

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The reason I don't use a filter on this guy is the front element has a special coating that simply wipes off.  Anything and everything.....so far anyways.  The main reason for a filter is protection of that expensive front element.  Not so for the big Siggy S.   This lens and my EOS 1DX love each other.  They work fantasticly together.

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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread


@shadowsportswrote:

I saw when you posted those images previously and enjoyed seeing the signatures on the left wing.  Quite a shot.  

 

So the SigC hasn't had a FW update since 2016, and it was mostly to improve compatibility with lens mount converters.  Also claims to quiet aperature lens blade noise during video.  I doubt I will shoot video with a lens of this FL. 

    


I do not recall the date, but the most recent firmware update on the Sigma C that I know about completely rewrote the AF algorithms.  The update completely changed the lens.  Sigma claims that it focuses 40% faster, that it’s quieter, and the OS no longer gets into a tug-war with the autofocus.

I updated my lens, and I noticed that I could complete discard all of the AFMA adjustments I had made with the dock.  The lens  no longer has soft AF, above 500mm.  It is quieter, and faste.  I have begun to use it again.  After buying a 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM, I had put my Sigma S into semi-retirement, pondering which son I should curse by giving it to him.

While it is not my choice for BIF, it is great for outdoor sports on a large field ... ... on a bright sunny day.

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Re: Another 150-600mm Thread

Finally made up my mind.  I'm going to do the SigmaC with TC1401 for extra reach. 

 

Wadizzle, your mention of the complete AF re-write.  I missed this during my intial reseach.  v1.02 released May 2016 included the AF enhancements.  in Oct, they released v1.03 that incuded the mount converter compatibility enhancements I mentioned earlier (something I won't use).  The TC-1401 and lens are supported by my dock.  I'm going to go for the refurb "kit" directly from Sigma.

 

The sports model is very compelling, the IQ is impressive, but when I thought about how I would use the lens, the C made the most sense.  Ernie, I'm going with your UV filter recommendation.  The lens does have a crazy water and oil repellent coating, but I'll probably keep a filter on it for walking around in the bushes.  It's a long lens.

 

Next influencing characteristic was the customizations mode switch which can be programmed via the dock.  I won't use this initially, but it is something I see myself using in the future. So it's ordered and on the way. 

 

Thanks guys for the insight, recommendations and great help.

Rick
Bay Area - CA
~6D2 (f/w 1.0.4) ~16-35mm f2.8L II, 50 f1.8 STM, 85 prime USM, 70-200 f2.8L IS II ~70-300 USM II ~Sigma 24-70 f2.8 Art (f/w 2.01)
~Sigma 150-600 C + TC1401 1.4x (f/w 1.03) ~Speedlite 430 EX II ~DxO PhotoLab Elite ~Windows10 Pro nVidia GPU 1803
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