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Re: HELP WITH PICKING A CAMERA FOR PORTRAIT PHOTOGRAPHY

Work?  I changed the spelling a bit to suit my needs, I now spell it like this, p-l-a-y.  Smiley Happy

 

"Does this mean we agree?"  It does if you admit the same photo can be made with either format camera if the right lens is selected.  That is my main most point.  Whether you adjust the f-ratio or you move your feet.  The exact same DOF can be possible, actually no matter which camera format you use.  Physical limits of manufacture, of course apply.

 

Consider a person, new to photography, doesn't own or have any desire to own a FF DSLR.  They have no interest or need to know what 1.6x is.  They simply need to know how their camera operates and functions with their lens(s).

 

IMHO, crop factor is a term that should have never been created. Especially since 'crop sensor' cameras crop nothing.

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Re: HELP WITH PICKING A CAMERA FOR PORTRAIT PHOTOGRAPHY


@ebiggs1 wrote:

 

  It does if you admit the same photo can be made with either format camera if the right lens is selected.  That is my main most point.  Whether you adjust the f-ratio or you move your feet.  The exact same DOF can be possible, actually no matter which camera format you use.  Physical limits of manufacture, of course apply.

 


I think your point is the whole point of the debate.  It is not always possible to adjust the f/stop or move further back to get the same shot.  The “physical limits of manufacture” that you cite could be described is the whole point.  

 

The full frame sensor is going to be more flexible when it comes depth of field.  I do not think many portrait photographers are trying to use a full frame with an aperture setting of f/8 to shoot portraits.

The 6D is currently on a fire sale at the Canon Online Refurbished store, as is the 6D2, and 5D3.

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Re: HELP WITH PICKING A CAMERA FOR PORTRAIT PHOTOGRAPHY

My friend uses Canon 80D and it seems working great. His works appear seemless and he became more enthusiastic in photography.

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Re: HELP WITH PICKING A CAMERA FOR PORTRAIT PHOTOGRAPHY

"My friend uses Canon 80D and it seems working great."

 

Absolutely, don't fall for the inner web hype.

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Re: HELP WITH PICKING A CAMERA FOR PORTRAIT PHOTOGRAPHY

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@Waddizzle wrote:
The 6D is currently on a fire sale at the Canon Online Refurbished store, as is the 6D2, and 5D3.

I noticed that too, though most of the camera bodies you mentioned are now sold out. With the inevitible transition to mirrorless picking up steam, they are probably trying to clear out their stock of outdated tech. 

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Re: HELP WITH PICKING A CAMERA FOR PORTRAIT PHOTOGRAPHY


@John_SD wrote:

@Waddizzle wrote:
The 6D is currently on a fire sale at the Canon Online Refurbished store, as is the 6D2, and 5D3.

I noticed that too, though most of the camera bodies you mentioned are now sold out. With the inevitible transition to mirrorless picking up steam, they are probably trying to clear out their stock of outdated tech. 


Canon clearly considers the 6D and the 5D3 to be obsolete equipment, so the fact that they're unloading them is no surprise. That the 6D2 is on the list is interesting, though. It suggests that those who might have bought the 6D2 are the specific target of the new full-frame mirrorless camera. And that makes sense. Pros, semi-pros, and even very serious amateurs are unlikely to buy the mirrorless until it has proven itself, while those just escalating to FF may be more open to innovation.

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"Pros, semi-pros, and even very serious amateurs are unlikely to buy the mirrorless until it has proven itself, while those just escalating to FF may be more open to innovation."

 

You bet and why the first truly great or even usable mirrorless is not a 1 series.  A 6 series replacement is where it belongs.

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Re: HELP WITH PICKING A CAMERA FOR PORTRAIT PHOTOGRAPHY


@John_SD wrote:

@Waddizzle wrote:
The 6D is currently on a fire sale at the Canon Online Refurbished store, as is the 6D2, and 5D3.

I noticed that too, though most of the camera bodies you mentioned are now sold out. With the inevitible transition to mirrorless picking up steam, they are probably trying to clear out their stock of outdated tech. 


That was then.  It was graduation season.  I do not expect another round of deep discounts until the holiday season approaches..

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Re: HELP WITH PICKING A CAMERA FOR PORTRAIT PHOTOGRAPHY

“It suggests that those who might have bought the 6D2 are the specific target of the new full-frame mirrorless camera. And that makes sense.”

 

Sorry, I do not follow the connection.  Too many missing dots to connect with that conclusion.  The 6D2 is more than a full frame 80D.

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