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[wthatcher]

Because buyers want to know... It is a reasonable request on their part. Would you purchase a car without knowing the mileage?

[ebiggs1]

"And does it affect anything at all ?"

Yes, it does.

[lly3988]

There are buyers who wouldn't care about SC if the camera is maintained properly. I wouldn't buy one with only a few K SC but in very bad shape.

Do people know a digital slr can die anytime from new to over a million SC ? And shutter failure is only one of the many causes of the death of a dslr.

If buyers are worried, ask them to go buy a new one with warranty and also pay several hundred extra for the extended warranty.

[lly3988]

BTW, a car has an odometer to know the mileage. For camera, there are at least 4 to 5 ways to find the SC easily.
Buyers are welcome to bring their laptop to verify SC.

[wthatcher]

And there are buyers who do care. Stating that you wouldn't purchase a camera b/c it had a low sc and in bad shape is valid statement, however; it is not appropriate to this conversation b/c the comment is adding a criteria that is unqualifiable and an attempt to undermine the value of the information that can be used to determine the value of the item, how much is only defined by the other party.

[wthatcher]

If it were that easy... then this thread would haved ceased to exist years ago.

[lly3988]

A few years back, I discovered a 7D listed for sale locally. I requested a SC report. Yes, I was given one via email.
I printed it out and brought it with me when I met up with the seller. Everything seemed right when I inspected the camera. I was pleased with the cosmetic condition of the camera and everything seemed to work okay.
When I checked the serial number on the SC report, it wasn't identical to the one on the camera. So I back out from the transaction for obvious reasons.
I learned a lesson. The SC report provided by the buyer may not always be relied upon for accurate information.

[RobertTheFat]

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@wthatcher wrote:

I find that totally ridiculous, requiring to send in the camera for this piece of information. What ever possesed Canon to force their customers is idiotic. Paying for shipping, packaging and the chance the camera could be damaged in shipping or lost... Hmph! And... uisng ExifTool worked in locating the shutter count, no need to spend money on an app.

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I explained that in this thread sixteen months ago. Go read what I said before you fume anymore. Besides, it doesn't matter what you say or think. Some buyers probably don't care about the shutter count, but no buyer in his right mind will believe anything but a Canon-certified count.

[lly3988]

It is really that easy.

There are always new comers. There are are always people who never know that there is a need to find the shutter count and suddenly they want to buy or sell a camera. And they see people asking about it so they want to know about it.

There are also people who don't want to pay and get a service for free by just asking here and there.

It is really that easy. Really.

[wthatcher]

I understand that things like this can occur. In your situation if it were way off then yes that would be the same decision I would have made. But the crux of the conversation by some here is that the sc is not important or that it is required to ship the camera in. Canon deliberately hides this information. And in my experience in the world it is only for their profit... I do see how some dishonest people could alter this... but if we lived with this mentality then we would be beholden to every company and governmental agency in the world. One reason that the US has prospered is for the sake of independence from such types of suppression. And some may think this is overboard.... but this is how it starts, continue to take one freedom away at a time. We are seeing it in the US as we live right now...