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Re: Hardware Feature Request: EOS R with SIM Card Slot


@livestreamer wrote:
If all you are doing is streaming, and the stream is being recorded remotely, then there's no need for local storage any more.

This would only appeal to people who aren't using the camera for photography. 

 

As it is, this video rubbish is adding substantial cost to the prices of cameras, and for a lot of photgraphers they will have to pay a hefty premium for features they will rarely if ever use. Increasingly the prices are getting harder to justify if you aren't interested in video, because you are paying through the nose for features you're not interested in using. 

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@John_SD wrote:

@livestreamer wrote:
If all you are doing is streaming, and the stream is being recorded remotely, then there's no need for local storage any more.

This would only appeal to people who aren't using the camera for photography. 

 

As it is, this video rubbish is adding substantial cost to the prices of cameras, and for a lot of photgraphers they will have to pay a hefty premium for features they will rarely if ever use. Increasingly the prices are getting harder to justify if you aren't interested in video, because you are paying through the nose for features you're not interested in using. 


Most of the video implemetation is done through software.  All of the parts to do video are already present in a digital camera.

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Re: Hardware Feature Request: EOS R with SIM Card Slot

Firmware actually, the Digic chip has to do a lot of work downsampling and compressing, hence the overheating problem.

 

I am sure, the Digics are very expensive to develop.

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@kvbarkley wrote:

Firmware actually, the Digic chip has to do a lot of work downsampling and compressing, hence the overheating problem.

 

I am sure, the Digics are very expensive to develop.


If you are referring to overheating in the R5, that just might be the CFExpress card that is overheating, not the CPU or sensor.

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Re: Hardware Feature Request: EOS R with SIM Card Slot

Just DSLR overheating in general, I have no experience with the R5.

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Re: Hardware Feature Request: EOS R with SIM Card Slot

Gents, head over to DPReview pronto and read the article they just posted regarding the R5/R6 overheating issue. Some great points are made -- among them is that high-end video recording is one of the most processor-intensive activities you can subject the camera to, and any of them will heat up. In the case of the R6/R5, we have a lot of amateurs and spec sheet warriors who will attempt to use them as pro cinema gear, which they are not.  Excellent article, in my opinion. 

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@John_SD wrote:

Gents, head over to DPReview pronto and read the article they just posted regarding the R5/R6 overheating issue. Some great points are made -- among them is that high-end video recording is one of the most processor-intensive activities you can subject the camera to, and any of them will heat up. In the case of the R6/R5, we have a lot of amateurs and spec sheet warriors who will attempt to use them as pro cinema gear, which they are not.  Excellent article, in my opinion. 


Do you mean the article that starts off like this?

 

"If you have any interest in cameras, you may have witnessed the heated discussions lately around the new Canon EOS R5 and R6’s tendency to overheat when capturing video internally."

 

 

Note the key phrase, "when capturing video internally:, which means internal recording.  If you use an external recorder, the overheating problems are practically non-existent.  Also, the most guilty party in the overheating issue just may be the CFExpress memeory card.

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@Waddizzle wrote:

Also, the most guilty party in the overheating issue just may be the CFExpress memeory card.

Despite your weird fixation on the memory card as being the source of the overheating problem, we haven't seen any proof of that to this point.

 

Actually, I believe that the article presented a pretty good overview and reasons of why the camera is subject to overheating, particularly in its summation:

 

"It’s easy to fall into the trap of thinking this means Canon didn’t put enough thought into thermal management for these cameras. Our testing suggests this isn’t the case, but that the cameras’ specs are rather over-ambitious."

 

For me, and I suspect for you too, the overheating "problem" won't be an issue, or for any of us who are interested in photography. It is the spray-and-pray videographers who thought they could film for hours on end without issue who are going to be bitterly disappointed. They should look into the C500 Mark II, which is priced at B&H at an affordable $16,000. This would be an apporpriate tool for our "emerging" movers and shakers. 

 

I have zero interest in video, though once in a blue moon I may film something for a minute of two. The R5/R6 would be fine in producing high quality video within the confines of its engineering. 

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@John_SD wrote:

@Waddizzle wrote:

Also, the most guilty party in the overheating issue just may be the CFExpress memeory card.

Despite your weird fixation on the memory card as being the source of the overheating problem, we haven't seen any proof of that to this point.

 

Actually, I believe that the article presented a pretty good overview and reasons of why the camera is subject to overheating, particularly in its summation: 


People have wondered why Sony has never used CFExpress cards in their cameras, despite the fact they invented them.

 

The reason why there is so much chatter about the "overheating problem" is that it drives traffic to your platform.  Profit.

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Re: Hardware Feature Request: EOS R with SIM Card Slot

So, my laptop has a SIM chip... is that then also a smartphone? Also, my motorbike has a SIM chip... is that also a smartphone? Smiley Wink
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