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Re: Feeling a bit discouraged, would love some advice [VIDEO SHOOTING]


@John_SD wrote:

"...after years of saving every penny I could and cutting back on everything else I could, I purchased the Canon EOS 80...My main passion is making cinematic, travel, and vlogging style videos- and that was the main purpose of buying the 80D..."

 

I don't own an 80D, and I have no interest in shooting videos, but I have heard nothing but good about the camera from people whose opinions I trust. None of these guys are "vloggers." I am convinced that if their "main passion" was making videos, they would have chosen a proper video camera. What do you think of the 80D for stills? Since you already have it, why not learn to use the camera for DSLR photography?

 

"I took her down to a big beach town- La Jolla, near San Diego, CA today- and tried to use the things I'd learned from other videos and tutorials in order to make sure the video was top notch."

 

I have shot there many times, and also along the tidepools by Cabrillo. Most people walk along the sea wall by Children's Pool and photograph the seals. Did you venture further up toward the cliffs and shoot the sea lions at the Cove? An APS-C is ideal there. 

 

"My style is walking around, travelling, seeing things, and recording as much of it as possible- sometimes turning the camera around to record my face."

 

Indeed. 

 

"I appreciate any potential solutions! I am hired as a filmmaker for an event on June 9th and would love it fixed before then so I can practice and make sure everything is perfect."

 

By all accounts the 80D is a superb DSLR camera for taking photographs. I think you are missing out on its great strengths by trying to shoot videos with it, which you seem unprepared for. 

 

Best of luck in figuring out what you want to do with your camera.


 


Thank you for your thoughts. I have actually used the 80D extensively for photos as well, and am likewise blown away by the capiabilities that it has. Although I did primarily buy it for videography, I also bought it for photos- on my trip to the Anza-Borrego Desert State Park/Salton Sea area in April, I had an additional camera for photos and used the Powershot for videos. It was extremely difficult to hike, use the photo camera, the video camera, and carry a tripod at the same time during the night. I bought the 80D as well because it would make it so much easier to have a bit of both without requiring two camera on my neck.

 

The 80D is a great camera for everything. I feel like my big weakness right now is that I'm not sure of the best way to use it to capture the videos and photos that I want. I will be taking the other commenters' suggestions and be purchasing a strong tripod, and will make sure there is a balance between photo and video in the future.


 

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Re: Feeling a bit discouraged, would love some advice [VIDEO SHOOTING]


@wq9nsc wrote:

I agree with John that the 80D (and similar DSLR bodies) shine at still photography while providing video capability as a nice bonus that works OK for some purposes but it isn't the primary design intent of that body.  If you want to use it for video blogging and similar pursuits then you will have to treat it as a DSLR with video capability subject to constraints as such and one requirement will be to use a proper tripod like Wadizzle suggested.

 

Some of the players on my daughter's varsity soccer team needed some video for skills development and after shooting a little video with my 1DX and 1DX 2 bodies I quickly decided the hand held fast following of action was not a great match for those bodies.  I picked up a Canon XF-400 which works very nicely for such video tasks; it doesn't allow me to use my large collection of EF lenses but the built in lens is fine for my needs and its multi-mode integrated stabilization system works extremely well and was probably far simpler to implement for Canon since it only has to work perfectly with that single lens and sensor setup unlike the IS system built into EF series lenses.  I briefly considered an EOS cinema body but that was overkill and less well suited for my needs.

 

In my view, my 1DX and 1DX 2 bodies provide excellent stills and will also produce extremely good quality video under the right conditions.  The XF-400 does a great job with video and although it can capture stills it is far better at being a video camera.  Rarely does a combined tool cover two greatly disparate tasks equally well and such tools are best chosen with the primary task in mind accepting that the secondary task will not be as well implemented.

 

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Hey, I looked into each of the cameras you suggested, and although I certainly agree that each of those would be better than the 80D, it's way out of my budget. Despite having work and such, things haven't been easy recently, trying to get to work and back everyday is a challenge and I didn't have much room for spending upwards of the 1000 ish I did spend on my camera. If it took this long to save up for the one I have, I can only imagine how long it'd take for an XF-400 or even the 1DX/1DX2. And lenses, I've noted that as well. I might try to save up and see if I can get a lens that might work better for videos. The one I have is the standard kit lens, so it's not exceptional when it comes to video, or photo for that matter, and I'm sure that changing that would improve the quality.

 

I'm going to quit replying right now to my responses, thank you all for the feedback and thoughts. I also appreciate the attitude some of you directed towards me. I realized that I truly didn't research every aspect of videography, and the style I wanted to capture with the camera, as much as I had thought I did. I'm going to rethink my video style and steer away from "vlogging/putting myself in the frame." in order to provide more interesting travel content. And yes, I'll get a tripod. If anyone has video/strong tripod suggestions, I'm all ears. 

 

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Re: Feeling a bit discouraged, would love some advice [VIDEO SHOOTING]

Buy a good tripod but take a look at the used department from places like B&H.  You can look at buying a used tripod in good condition as either spending less than what you otherwise would OR getting a better quality tripod for the same price or less than a mediocre quality new unit.

 

Also watch for closeouts from the same sources.

 

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Re: Feeling a bit discouraged, would love some advice [VIDEO SHOOTING]

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@zacharymarek wrote:

Thank you for your thoughts. I have actually used the 80D extensively for photos as well, and am likewise blown away by the capiabilities that it has. Although I did primarily buy it for videography, I also bought it for photos- on my trip to the Anza-Borrego Desert State Park/Salton Sea area in April

I also shoot in the desert often and have been to the Anza-Borrego many a time. If you haven't checked out the slot canyon  by the old Calcite Mine, put it on your to-do list for the next time. Walking through there you'll feel like you're on another planet. Bring extra batteries and water. Hours will go by before you realize it. 

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Re: Feeling a bit discouraged, would love some advice [VIDEO SHOOTING]

“The one I have is the standard kit lens, so it's not exceptional when it comes to video, or photo for that matter, and I'm sure that changing that would improve the quality.”

 

Actually, the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM kit lens is ideally designed to take full advantage of the Dual Pixel AF system.  In fact, all of the EF-S IS STM zooms are expressly designed to work with DPAF.  Unfortunately, none of the lenses are very fast, and only the EF-S STM zooms can take advantage of DPAF.  This means that a prime like the EF 50mm f/1.8 STM lens cannot take full advantage of DPAF’s features.

 

As far as tripods go, I am going to assume that you have a budget similar to your gimbal budget, $300. The Benro tripods cost less than the Manfrotto tripods.  In your price range, I would recommend this Benro.

 

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But, B&H is always putting stuff on sale for a day.  I caught one similar to this Manfrotto at 50% off two years ago.

 

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I got lucky to catch that one a such a deep discount.  The previoious kit was being discontinued in favor of this one.

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Re: Feeling a bit discouraged, would love some advice [VIDEO SHOOTING]

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I just noticed that B&H may have a solution to [your] original [problem] with using the 80D on a selfie stick.  The Gopro Fusion 360 degree camera is on sale at 50% off.  You can do pretty powerful editing with the software.  

 

Results do not have to look like a fishbowl.  They can look like regular video, but you can use their software to pan and zoom in any direction   Stick one of these one the end of a selfie stick, and you will have a much lighter load.  It will not perform as well under less than the best lighting conditions, though.

 

[EDIT]. My vision has been getting far worse lately, folks.

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