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Re: EOS-M5 & L Series lenses, plus more.....

All cameras have pluses and negatives. Size, weight, and cost may be bigger factors for other people then they are for you. To say the EOS M5 is a negative or bad camera ignores that, and exposes a very narrow point of view.
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Re: EOS-M5 & L Series lenses, plus more.....

"To say the EOS M5 is a negative or bad camera ignores that ..."

 

It does not ignore what is available from the competition, does it? 

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Re: EOS-M5 & L Series lenses, plus more.....


@ebiggs1 wrote:

"To say the EOS M5 is a negative or bad camera ignores that ..."

 

It does not ignore what is available from the competition, does it? 


The M-5 can use any of Canon's EF and EF-S lenses. You've often said that the lens is the most important thing and that Canon's lenses are second to none. What are we missing here?

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RTF,

"You've often said that the lens is the most important thing and that Canon's lenses are second to none."

 

Correct on both points, Robert.  But you have to admit the better the platform the better the lens.

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Got my M5 two days ago. I played around with it yesterday at Christmas eve. Some thoughts:

  • Together with a 70-200 it feels like the camera will break if you only hold on to the camera and not to the lens. All weight on my left arm. The AF works great, but I have only tried the AF tracking with some birds yet.
  • I still don´t know if I would like to have a joystick instead. Think I need to get used to the touch screen. It is easier than the touch pad on my 6D, but harder than my joystick on my 7D. I haven´t tried with gloves or in rain.
  • Works great with lenses as 50/1,4 and 85/1,8. Never again minor AF variance. Shooting portraits with fast lenses I would rather use the M5 than 80D because of that.
  • Works great with my manual m42 lens Helios 58/2.
  • I am normally using my left eye, but with this camera I need to use the right eye. Something I got used to with my X100 before. Try it in a camera shop and you will know. Not an big issue for me.
  • Face tracking is great.
  • I would like to have the battery time in procent, same as my 7D and 6D.
  • I miss the function of whole ISO stops. I don´t want to use ISO 125, 250, 500, 1000 (if Canon hasn´t done something new with the sensors in 1DX II, 5D IV, 80D and M5)

I would say that the camera is good for traveling light and easy with som primes.

DCS 3c, DCS 520, D30, D60, 1Ds, 300D, 30D, 1000D IR, 7D, 6D, 6D, M5
15-45/3.5-6.3 IS, 16-35/4 IS, 22/2, 24/1.4 II, 24-105/4 IS, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 100/2.8, 70-200/2.8 IS II, 300/2.8 IS
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A bug with the new M5. 1-3 seconds delay when using flash in manual mode and manual focus.

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15-45/3.5-6.3 IS, 16-35/4 IS, 22/2, 24/1.4 II, 24-105/4 IS, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 100/2.8, 70-200/2.8 IS II, 300/2.8 IS
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@Peter wrote:

A bug with the new M5. 1-3 seconds delay when using flash in manual mode and manual focus.


Could you have possibly turned the self-timer on accidentally? Or be using 2nd-curtain sync at a low shutter speed?

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First reported at dpreview, confirmed by Canon Germany and tried out by myself today.

 

Edit: I forgot to mention an important thing. It is only true in dark environment. Real life situations could be flash photographing in a dark forest or photographing fencers (search for fencing photos).

Canon 7D has a similar problem in dark environment and manual mode when the camera no longer can shoot 8 f/s but goes down to 4 f/s.


DCS 3c, DCS 520, D30, D60, 1Ds, 300D, 30D, 1000D IR, 7D, 6D, 6D, M5
15-45/3.5-6.3 IS, 16-35/4 IS, 22/2, 24/1.4 II, 24-105/4 IS, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 100/2.8, 70-200/2.8 IS II, 300/2.8 IS
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@Peter wrote:

First reported at dpreview, confirmed by Canon Germany and tried out by myself today.

 

Edit: I forgot to mention an important thing. It is only true in dark environment. Real life situations could be flash photographing in a dark forest or photographing fencers (search for fencing photos).

Canon 7D has a similar problem in dark environment and manual mode when the camera no longer can shoot 8 f/s but goes down to 4 f/s.



I don't know about the M5, but, I do know with the 7D it must be far darker than you would ever photograph in any conceivable situation, unless you're into photographing the inside of your lens cap. 

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@TTMartin wrote:

@Peter wrote:

First reported at dpreview, confirmed by Canon Germany and tried out by myself today.

 

Edit: I forgot to mention an important thing. It is only true in dark environment. Real life situations could be flash photographing in a dark forest or photographing fencers (search for fencing photos).

Canon 7D has a similar problem in dark environment and manual mode when the camera no longer can shoot 8 f/s but goes down to 4 f/s.



I don't know about the M5, but, I do know with the 7D it must be far darker than you would ever photograph in any conceivable situation, unless you're into photographing the inside of your lens cap. 


My room with three spotlights turned on. The place looks similar to the left one http://media1.linabythebay.se/2014/12/styling-apartment4.jpg . I used 1/40 sec, f2,8 and ISO 3200 to get a good exposure with my 7D.

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15-45/3.5-6.3 IS, 16-35/4 IS, 22/2, 24/1.4 II, 24-105/4 IS, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, 100/2.8, 70-200/2.8 IS II, 300/2.8 IS
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