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Re: DSLR 101


@ebiggs1 wrote:

Demo.

 

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Of course like it or not, it is up to you.  I think they are great and a little something different.  Plus they offer another challenge.  I am doing a new book titled "All you have to do is look.......and HDR Study."  Sould be here by the 1sr of June.


Thumbs up and keep up the good work.  You do know your stuff my friend.  Looking forward to your new books.

 

P.S.............I ordered the HP 23" 1080P Monitor at BB.  Should be here next week sometime.  From all customer reviews (I know you don't like reviews)  it's a knockout Monitor., most give it 5 stars.    I like ithat t has 175 degree viewing angle.  That should help alot.  All my Monitors that I have now, have to be viewed from directly in front of the sceen or it does'nt look very good at all.  They all have a very narrow viewing angle.

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Re: DSLR 101


jazzman1 wrote: 

P.S.............I ordered the HP 23" 1080P Monitor at BB.  Should be here next week sometime.  From all customer reviews (I know you don't like reviews)  it's a knockout Monitor., most give it 5 stars.    I like ithat t has 175 degree viewing angle.  That should help alot.  All my Monitors that I have now, have to be viewed from directly in front of the sceen or it does'nt look very good at all.  They all have a very narrow viewing angle.


The viewing angle matters not a bit for photo editing. It matters only if more than one person is viewing the monitor at the same time.

Bob
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@ebiggs1 wrote:

Smiley Very Happy

 

Gentlemen, gentlemen, you obiviously do not understand HDR ? Smiley Frustrated

 

High-dynamic-range imaging (or HDR) is a set of techniques used in imaging and photography to reproduce a greater dynamic range of lumunosity than is possible with standard digital imaging or photographic techniques.

 

HDR is a process where you take 3 or 5 or more photos. Each with a slightly different exposure setting.  Than you use software to stack and align the multiple photos into a single.  The new version of LR6 and DPP4 can do this.  It is similar to a stacking process that astrophotographers use to get the glorious shots of the planets and stars and galaxies, etc.  Those pictures are impossibile with out stacking.

A normal photograph had a DR of around four but an HDR image can exceed 10 or 11 or even more.

 

The tone mapping actually removes most of the contrast and very little sharpening is done.  In fact I added none.  Expand your horizons and check out HDR, guys!


I can't presume to speak for the Jazz Man; but as it happens, I do understand HDR. The explanation (that the pictures had undergone the HDR treatment) makes perfect sense, but it doesn't change how they look. OTOH, viewing them does help one understand why HDR often gets a bad rap for the unnatural look it can impart.

 

Don't get me wrong: I'm not against unnatural-looking pictures per se. One of the five pictures that hang on my office wall at work is a nondescript sunset in which I squashed the histogram to about 10% of its original range. I liked the result, and the original had been headed for the bit bucket, so I kept it. But if a manipulated sunset can become a pleasantly abstract splash of color (probably a fluke anyway), even a well done HDR sequence can come out looking like a paint-by-numbers creation.

 

I'd be remiss if I didn't commend you for taking those pictures in a rainstorm. I've always been a strong believer in playing the cards you're dealt and not letting bad weather stand in the way of a potentially good shoot.

Bob
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Re: DSLR 101


@RobertTheFat wrote:

jazzman1 wrote: 

P.S.............I ordered the HP 23" 1080P Monitor at BB.  Should be here next week sometime.  From all customer reviews (I know you don't like reviews)  it's a knockout Monitor., most give it 5 stars.    I like ithat t has 175 degree viewing angle.  That should help alot.  All my Monitors that I have now, have to be viewed from directly in front of the sceen or it does'nt look very good at all.  They all have a very narrow viewing angle.


The viewing angle matters not a bit for photo editing. It matters only if more than one person is viewing the monitor at the same time.


Ahhh Bob hate to hear that.  I was hoping for a new insight into my pics and moving forward.  Oh well, I suppose I can take it back for a refund if it does'nt workout.

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Re: DSLR 101

"I ordered the HP 23" 1080P Monitor at BB"

 

It isn't big enough but whatever.  It's not me.  The viewing angle doesn't really matter unless you are watching a movie or baseball game.

You let the reviewers make the dicission for you...........again.  Smiley Frustrated

EB
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Time to start a new thread?  This one is getting pretty long in the tooth.   Unless there are no more questions!

EB
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Re: DSLR 101


@ebiggs1 wrote:

"I ordered the HP 23" 1080P Monitor at BB"

 

It isn't big enough but whatever.  It's not me.  The viewing angle doesn't really matter unless you are watching a movie or baseball game.

You let the reviewers make the dicission for you...........again.  Smiley Frustrated


i will just let you see things as you will.  but i don't let any review...absolutely none ....make a purchase decision for me.  not in a lens or anything else.  i use reviews only as a guide and info, but the ultimate choice is mine.  I've never blamed a review for any of my bad choices on a purchase.   i bet Bob don't think I do either.  this is your issue, not mine.

 

i'm only getting this monitor cause you insist i upgrade.  but i really would rather spend my money on other things more important to me.  i know you wanted me to get a bigger, even better monitor, but i just don't want to spend more money on a monitor.  i'm not doing anything professional i really need one for.  Many of those monitors you like run over $1,000.00 and I just can't justify that kind of expense on a monitor right now.  i read up on better monitors for video editing and as you say the smallest size suggested is 24", that's a minimum.  but i neither have use, the room, nor the desire, to spend more money on a monitor.  maybe later when my needs change Obiwan.  If we were talking about a lens i would need ....no problem, but not a monitor, least ways not right now.  Sorry Obiwan, i really hate to disappoint you here.

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Re: DSLR 101


@ebiggs1 wrote:

Time to start a new thread?  This one is getting pretty long in the tooth.   Unless there are no more questions!


there's always more questions.  but i follow your lead.

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I guess it must be the mixed signals I seem to be getting.  Saying one thing here and doing another is what has lead me to say what I did.  You are right, however, you need what fits you, not me.  If you read the entire post you should have seen this "It isn't big enough but whatever.  It's not me."

 

Remember I have no interest beyond seeing you succeed but in the end you must do what you believe is right.  Your path is not mine and there are many.  Whatever and most important, do not buy a monitor because I said so or anybody says so.  Buy it because you want it and see the requirement.  The very reason Canon and others make such a vast array of product is everybody is different.  There is sure to be something that works for you and is right.

 

At this point I suggest, if you care, do not buy Lightroom.  Wait at least for a while.

 

EB
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Re: DSLR 101

Thanks for your insightful reply.  Yes I saw your statement on monitor size.  That's why I got at least this 23".  Not quite what you wanted but close.  I do relate to how you feel here, I've experienced it myself when I mentored guys and helping them.  Sometimes I have gotton too emotionally involed and lost my objectivity.  Sometimes I have wanted things the indiviual did'nt want for themselves. There were times I tried to push some faster than they were capable of going or even understanding at that point.  For me it's been a learning process and I have found that mentoring can be a 2-way street where I learned as much or more than those I was trying to teach.  My learning came in other areas, usually, but no less important.  You're a very knowledagable photographer and you have alot to offer and share.  Don't give up trying to help, it's peeps like you that make the world a nicer, kinder place, for newbies the world over.

 

i'll probably keep the monitor anyhow.  it'll get used one way or the other.  I will holdup on LR for now. 

 

Thanks my Obiwan.

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