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Re: DSLR 101

You said:

"Gimp was too hard to learn, seemed complicated as is most of the free programs."

This is a problem. I grant you Gimpshop is not as user friendly as PS but not by much.  LR is going to have a learning curve too.  As will all the software you will need.  A person that has the goals you do will need Lightroom and you will also probably need Photoshop.  You understand this?  You said..........

" Later I may start a part time business and do portrets, sports, weddings, graduations, and other social events

 

I understand my friend.  I'll just have to take things 1 step at a time, as I go.  I will get whatever I need, but at my pace.  I believe in living within my means.  That may mean saving till I have the money to buy.  I won't go into overload on credit cards, though I could, my credit is outstanding.   Later, when I think I know what I need to know, I'd be willing to take out a loan for what I need, for my business.  But not for a hobby.  For a hobby I will save and pay as I go.

 

You said:

"This may be a problem, cause my best 2 i7 Pc's are laptops"

And it is a problem.  I know of nobody in the business that uses a laptop for editing work they are going to sell.  But you only need to get a good monitor. You can still use the laptops.  Why do you need two just alike?

 

I used to make video's and I needed 2 desktops to make mulitible copies of DVD"s and CD's for events I recorded.  I have 2 external DVD/CD burners connected to each.  I should have got a high speed duplicator, but my 2 desktops allowed me to do work on both at the same time, doing my work much faster than I could with only 1 desktop.  My laptops are more recent purchases for personal use.    I have a 15", and a 17"....intel  i7 laptops, one upstairs, and one downstairs.  My desktops were for  heavy duty purposes.  Even though my desktops only have intel i3 processors, they can handle far more intensive work loads, much faster than my intel i7 laptops.  It's just how they make Pc's.  Everything being equal, a desktop will out perform a laptop.....and many times even if the laptop is higher powered.  I also have an 11" netbook that I only use for traval.

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t must be nice Biggs to be able do what you do.."

Get ready, my friend Kareem, as this is only the beginning!   If you are going to be successful at what you just stated you told me you want to accomplish.  Just the start.........................................:smileywink:

 

I'm more than ready...I'm committed.  I just have to learn the things I need to know, do the things I have to do, then leave everything up to the man upstairs to make it all successful.  As long as I do all the things that I need to do.....I believe I'll be successful.   I'm not a dreamer, I'm a doer.  I believe if I put in the work and I'm good at what I do, everything will fall in place.  But if things don't workout as I plan I will still be happy cause I love photography and video's.  But you can't fail if you don't try.  And if we fall, we get backup and try again  (thumbs up)

 

 

If I missed anything let me know.

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OK, sounds good. I guess we are pretty much done here than?  Until you get LR?

 

I don't want to start another off topic subject as you don't need any thing to confuse your getting to know DPP at the moment.

But I did get the old 1D out to kinda show you something about pixels.  All pixels are not created equal.  Remember that.

I took the same picture with it and my 1D Mk IV which has a 16MP sensor.  Again a A/B choice.  Do you see a difference?

This kind of 'seeing' is going to become critcal as you progress.  Here is 4MP vs 16MP both with a 70mm lens.

 

4mp vs 16.jpg

 

I am not going to tell you which is which.  You choose.  Smiley Happy

Now get back to learning DPP. Smiley Wink

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You know Biggs it does take a little longer to convert RAw files to Jpg.  I have to set the pexel number and then start conversion.   Not a long time nor hard to do but it does take longer than just uploading Jpg.  I'm practicing cleaning up pics and adding more color, brighten when needed, etc.  I see I can even shapen a pic.  I see why some folks pic look so good, you can doctor most bad pics up to look good.  Comparing my own pics to others I see I've been comparing apples to oranges, LOL.

 

I do need to find another place to take pics, I need different challeges to get better.   One can only do so much with the same scene over and over.  I'm going to look for new interesting places to shoot. 

 

As I see it I will have 3 lens as my basic setup to work with.  50mm, 24-105mm, maybe 70-200mm or the 70-300mm.  I like the extra reach the last lens has.  Then maybe I can add a 150-500mm or 150-600mm.  That's 4 lens in all, but I'm not sure I won't need a few specialty ones for certain shots.  I'd be happy to only have to have 4 lens total, but not sure if they're all I would need.  I know it'll be good for awhile with only the 3, but when I start a business I may need a few more.  But I don't want to duplicate any of the range I'll already have if I don't need to.  So I will only get the best lens I can afford.

 

When I start my business I may need to upgrade from 4L mm lens to 2.8L mm's lens, what do you think?????.  But that's a ways off, at least a year or two from now..  I will also be in business with my video's and DVD/CD's.   Many folks today want their pics on DVD and CD, instead of on Photo Paper, though I'll do photo paper also.  Then I can make a nice slideshow with special effects, even background music.   I can really make memories folks will cherish.  I have 2 camcorder's now, a consumer and Prosumer level.  I plan to replace the Consumer Camcorder with a Professional Camcorder.  I had a video business back in the days of analog gear, when you were into 35mm.  Digital threw a monkey wrench in my world.  I had to start all over and learn digital and it has'nt been easy for me.   I'm just getting the hang of it all..

 

You did'nt push me into anything Biggs, you did what any good teacher would do.  You encouraged me along to do better.  It worked, and I'm the better for it.  I've had to do the same thing when I've mentored guys.  People are always intimidated with change and learning new things.  Especially when learning don't come easy.  But alls well that ends well (grin)  I ain't mad at you my friend.

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B on the right looks sharper, better detail, and has more color saturation.  It's a smaller pic but looks better to me.  Hope I'm not wrong but I swear B looks better.  If I'm wrong I need new glasses.

 

I do know that some pixels are bigger than others.   The pixels in my old Canon SX50 had bigger pixels, and the pics to me look better and sharper, than my newer Canon SX60.... which has more pixels, but the pixels are smaller.  But that's me, many think the pics from the newer SX60 are better, I don't...

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Biggs now I can see the difference in these 2 pics.  The RAW is sharper, more color saturation.  The Jpg looks a tad lighter, more washed out.  I can also see the distortion in the black areas.   But it's harder to see here than the last pics you posted.  These are not side by side.  I se it now because I observed it in the last pics.  But it's harder for me to see it in these cause they are not side by side.  Would have been easy to lie, you told me which one was Raw and which ones is Jpg.  But no reason to do that, I would only hurt myself.  Least I was honest with you.   I should get points for that LOL.

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I made some changes in some pics with color, sharpness, brightness, etc, in DPP.  But when I save and import them where I want them, my changes are not in the pic, they've reverted back to original.  How do I make chages and make the change permanate in my pics????

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"You know Biggs it does take a little longer to convert RAw files to Jpg."

 

No it does not!  It is the software you are using and the lack of experience.  This will not be the case when/if you switch to Lightroom.

 

"B on the right looks sharper, better detail, and has more color saturation."

 

So you are saying 'B' is the 16MP shot?  All I will say is don't bet your life on it.  I am still not going to tell which is which.  What I want to point out is the misunderstanding of pixels.

 

If you want another challenge, this is film vs digital.  Which is which?  Again I will not tell but I can say there is one very easy way to do so.

 

playground set film vs dslr 2.jpg

 

Top or bottom?  Which is 35mm film and which is a DSLR?

 

When you get ready to buy some more lenses, I hope you think about it mpre more than you have.  Focal length is not the only consideration.  Overlap is not the only consideration either.

 

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"How do I make chages and make the change permanate in my pics????"

 

You do know that F1 brings up the 'Help' screen?  It will walk you through each step.  Which is what I would type here so you may as well read it from your own computer.

 

save as.jpg

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I'll pick the picture on the top.  Seems to have more color saturation.  I'm assuming since the top pic looks better to me...it's the digital.     You know....I know nothing about 35mm, never used it.  And what does "mpre" mean??    And are you saying that all pixels are the same size???   If so, I must not have understood what I read.   I can tell the difference from film and video, but film and digital seems to be much harder to distingish the difference. 

 

I see now you have'nt used DPP because the process, from what you say is different from PS, or LR.  When I upload my RAW files in DPP, I put my SD card in my reader, and upload the files to the folder I designated in DPP.  Then I change the number of pixels I want, then have to phyiscally hit the button with my mouse to start conversion.  The process in DPP is different from whatever program you're using and is not automatic.  Then I have to wait, maybe 5 minutes for the files to finish converting to Jpg.  Now if you say it's suppose to be automatic...please tell me how that is?????.  Not saying you are wrong, in what you're saying, just that it's not how DPP works with me.

 

You must have missed my last message about saving my edited pics in DPP.  After I edit, add more color, brighten, maybe sharpen, when I save my edited pics to the distination folder, my pics are reverted back to original, with no changes.  How do I save my pics and keep the edited changes????

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sorry, missed this screenshot

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