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Controlling off camera speedlite

paddle_jim
Apprentice

I shoot with a 7D and use the pop-up flash to control my speedlites.  Can anyone tell me what other Canon cameras also have this capability?

 

Thanks.

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digital
Rising Star

Any Canon camera that has a pop-up flash. If no pop-up flash is available then you need either another flash that can be a used as a master or radio/optcial triggers.

 

Actually tought of something else. If no pop up is avaible you can use an OCF cord that connects to a flash. If that flash is a master then it can fire slaves.

 

http://ocfgear.com


@digital wrote:

Any Canon camera that has a pop-up flash. If no pop-up flash is available then you need either another flash that can be a used as a master or radio/optcial triggers.

 


Not all bodies with a pop-up flash can do this.  Only the newer bodies.  I think it was introduced with the T3i. 

Tim Campbell
5D III, 5D IV, 60Da

I think you are right, my XT does not do it, best info I can gather is that T3i was first to do it.

Actually the first with an integrated speedlite transmitter was the EOS 7D, but among the Rebels then the T3i is the first to have ISC.

 

Brian / p4pictures


Brian - Canon specialist trainer, author and photographer
https://www.p4pictures.com

p4pictures
Mentor
Mentor

If you want the camera to actually control the slave flashes automatically then you need to use on of the following cameras.

 

EOS 7D

EOS 60D

EOS 600D / Rebel T3i

EOS 650D / Rebel T4i

 

These are the only EOS cameras currently that have what Canon calls an Integrated Speedlite Master aka the pop-up can control off-camera Speedlites automatically.

 

Brian / p4pictures


Brian - Canon specialist trainer, author and photographer
https://www.p4pictures.com

according to Canon technical support:  T3i, T4i, T5i and 70D are EOS SLRs that have integrated Speedlite Control (ISC).  They can wirelessly control Speedlites remotely.  (such as 580EX2).  The earlier SLRs and the SL1 do not.  It would be nice to hear from people that actually have those cameras and do remotely control Speedlites. 

I have an XT, and a 580EX2, planning on getting one of those that have "ISC"

Anyone?

The list I posted earlier was correct at the time, now you can add

 

EOS 70D

Rebel T5i / EOS 700D

 

It seems that the tech support guys didn't mention the older 60D and 7D in their list. I have used both these and can confirm they have integrated speedlite control.

 

Brian / p4pictures


Brian - Canon specialist trainer, author and photographer
https://www.p4pictures.com

amfoto1
Authority

Cameras with built-in wireless flash control use the pop-up flash to emit visible light flashes to "communicate" with the remote flash. The distance they can reach will vary depending upon ambient light and is line-of-sight only. If used continuously for this purpose, after awhile the pop-up flash will shut down to prevent overheating. It will be usable again after it's had some time to cool down.

 

Cameras without built-in wireless flash can be fitted with one of the larger flashes that can act as a "master" and control off-camera flashes.... Or it can be fitted with an ST-E2 flash controller module. Both these use near IR light to communicate, largely invisible to the eye. It is a bit limited in distance and line-of-sight only, too. These are not subject to the same overheating prevention shut downs as the pop-up flash (though any flash will shut down temporarily too, if worked too hard).

 

There are now also 600EX-RT flashes and ST-E3-RT, which are radio triggered off camera flash and controller modules. These have the greatest reach and are not limited to line-of-sight only.

 

There are also third party optical and radio controllers that are merely "dumb" triggers... firing the flash but not really communicating with it or controlling it in any additional way. These can be rather inexpensive, but your flash setup and exposures are manually controlled.  

 

There are a couple third party radio controllers that do offer relatively full off-camera control of the IR-based flashes. These are fairly expensive, but offer TTL flash metering and multi-flash control

 

Incidentally, the flashes and ST-E2 that communicate in near IR, also can emit a Focus Assist beam that's near-IR and a whole lot less intrusive than the rapid strobe white light of the pop-up flash serving the same purpose. (The ST-E3-RT does not offer a Focus Assist feature).

 

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GEAR: 5DII, 7D(x2), 50D(x3), some other cameras, various lenses & accessories
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