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Re: Canon 7DII

None but when I am doing waterfalls, landscapes, etc, I will check the manual for special settings as well as when using flash or control remotes.  When I seat waiting for action I am usually looking around for what is going on...if I get distracted reading something I will miss the action...and this happens ocasionally anyway.

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Re: Canon 7DII


@Edward wrote:

YES, [the 547-page 7D2 manual] will not bigger than the current 5DIII manual that I already carry ...  


Au contraire, the 5D3 manual (which I happen to have up on the adjacent screen) is only 403 pages.

Bob
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Registered: ‎10-19-2014

Re: Canon 7DII

The short answer is error codes and functions which are useful but I don't use frequently enough to have committed to memory.  I try to depend on electronic devices as little as possible so no kindle, no iphone, and nor desire to carry my laptop into the somewhat dangerous (for electronic devices) environments in which I frequently shoot.   I mean really, there are at least two threads on this forum bemoaning the battery drain caused when one forgets to turn off the GPS feature on cameras.    

And yes, sometimes I do read some in my blinds, although only in very short spurts.

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Re: Canon 7DII

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You're free to carry around any literature you choose.  I won't fault you on that.  I'm just surprised to find that there are people that actually carry around the manuals in anticipation of a (hopefully) infrequent error code or if they get a sudden itch to explore a new feature.  But I suppose I'm not in a position to judge, I doubt I've looked at more than a dozen pages in any of the manuals I've owned.

HPL
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Re: Canon 7DII

A short story and a coupel or three addendums:  Several years ago I was doing a one day workshop on nature photography for some middle schoolers.  There were two other pros on the property at the time.  After a brief introduction the first question I asked was "show of hands, who has their manuals with them?".  I held up my hand as did the other two pros (who were watching before heading out on their own) and maybe three or four of the kids held up theirs.  Now, the three of us who use our cameras all the time thought it was smart to carry the manuals, but the kids who probably only pick up the camera a few days a month didn't.  I can't tell you how many people I know who were unaware that their cameras had dioptric adjustments, and i even ran into one person at a workshop I was attending who didn't  realize that the plastic thing surrounding the front of her lens could be twisted, removed, turned around, and used as a LENS SHADE.  Also had a friend shooting with me who couldn't understand why my camera (30D) had a faster burst rate than his (50D).  I had to show him how to set it on "high".  The majority of the folks I see out and about have no idea what proper camera technique is and yet, at least in the full manuals, there are graphics showing the proper way to hold a camera and so on.  The one piece of advice I always give is "read your manual, carry it in the gadget bag for quick reference."  

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Re: Canon 7DII

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Edward wrote: 

The image quality/noise is not a considerable improvement over the previous one.  


It's about a stop better than the 7D at high ISO at the image level; and considerably cleaner at lower ISOs - none of this "noisy skies at 100 ISO" nonsense that we used to hear about the 7D.

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Re: Canon 7DII


@RobertTheFat wrote:

Would you really want to carry around the printed version of a 547-page manual? 


Yep...

 

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Re: Canon 7DII


@KeithR wrote:

Edward wrote: 

The image quality/noise is not a considerable improvement over the previous one.  


It's about a stop better than the 7D at high ISO at the image level; and considerably cleaner at lower ISOs - none of this "noisy skies at 100 ISO" nonsense that we used to hear about the 7D.


THat's interesting.  Several of the discussions I poked my nose in on there was a lot of talk about them being fairly similar at the mid ISOs (1600-3200) and a modest increase at 12.8k+.  Admitantly I haven't really followed the pixel peeping closely, just hearing what the grumbles are.   I am glad they fixed the noisy sky issue though, that was a bit embarrassing.

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Re: Canon 7DII


@KeithR wrote:

@RobertTheFat wrote:

Would you really want to carry around the printed version of a 547-page manual? 


Yep...

 


This hasn't ceased to amaze me.

HPL
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Re: Canon 7DII

Guess we're just not as smart as you.

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