02-19-2014 06:45 PM
I agree TOTALLY, and VOCIFEROUSLY, with hsbn. GPS needs an automatic turn-off, either with the off switch or with the camera timeout. Configurable by the user.
I have finally just stopped using GPS, because I invariably forget and leave it on... and the camera I sat on the shelf on Weds, is dead as a doornail on Saturday morning.
This is silly. For a company that usually is REALLY tuned into their user-base and has created a great device that works like a glove on your hand... this is a glaring miss.
The ONLY thing worth complaining about (in my book) for this otherwise delightful camera.
Jim in Boulder
02-20-2014 03:40 AM - edited 02-20-2014 03:40 AM
One year with the problem and still no new firmware!
02-20-2014 11:00 AM
I have a friend that just bought a 6D. I don/t think he bought for the GPS, but I did warn him about the issue.
I have a 5D III and the GPS is an accessory module with it's own power switch and is configurable as to how often it grabs it's position (it can run for days on a single AA battery if you configure it to only check position every few minutes.)
I have noticed GPS's in general (and this applies to Canon's as well) seem to save their last known position and time. If they are powered on near that same position and without allowing too much time to pass, they re-acquire their position quickly. If days go by or if they move by a great distance (e.g. you powered it off, boarded a flight across the country and then power it back on after arrival), then it takes quite a while to re-lock position (sometimes several minutes.)
Imagine you're out hiking and every single time you power up your camera it takes 3-5 minutes to lock (especially because if you're in the woods, the tree leaves really weaken the ability to pick up GPS signal and it can take considerably longer.) You would probably be pretty upset with the delay. So it makes sense that they preserve the GPS activity for a little while, but I agree that a custom function (C.Fn) otpion to allow the GPS to be programmed for a delayed shut-down period after normal camera power off would be really nice... because the opposite problem of having a dead or near dead battery after a day or two isn't a very attractive option either.
Keep in mind that while Canon montiors the forum, it's not really for customer support and it's not really a way to send feedback to Canon.
To send feedback or request that they provide a fix, I would encourage you to contact Canon support directly. When a ticket is filed, it's on their radar... then they can look at their database and conclude that some really high percentage of 6D owners would like to see them release a firmware patch to power off the GPS when the camera is powered off.
02-20-2014 11:19 AM
I contacted Canon in December.
Thank you for contacting Canon product support regarding your EOS 6D. I understand your concern regarding the GPS feature of your camera.
I am happy to assist you. Turning the logging feature OFF should greatly reduce the amount of drain on the battery, but it does not completely eliminate it. Even in cameras with no GPS or Wi-fi leaving the battery in will cause a slight power drain. When storing your camera we recommend removing the battery. The GPS of the camera stays semi-active to reduce the time it takes to get a signal when the power is turned back on. I apologize for the inconvenience.
This is something that I can submit to our engineers for review and may be fixed in a future firmware. However, please note that decisions to alter a particular camera feature are made by our engineers and product designers in Japan, based on a number of factors. Consumer demand, technological limitations, and customer feedback are all taken in to consideration.
If you have not already done so I recommend performing a power reset on the camera. Please follow the instructions below.
02-20-2014 11:43 AM
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03-20-2014 12:48 AM
Well, Canon came out with a new Firmware update: 1.1.4 today. No mention of GPS. So I guess that means they aren't fixing before the 6D is obsoleted in another year or so.
But, GOOD NEWS!!! The Magic Lantern guys that are building the extension for EOS cameras and a splinter group supporting the 6D... added auto-GPS-off TODAY. Just downloaded their new version to test. Works great.
My favorite MagicLantern feature is a built-in Intervalometer which lets you specify automatically timed shots for up to hundreds of unattended shots. I use this all the time for astrophotography. Just set it for 100 thirty-second exposures on my telescope and go inside and have a glass of wine.
But they added GPS-off today. When you turn the 6D off, or when the 6D auto-sleeps, the GPS will go off. Yay!! Now I ALWAYS know I will have battery left even after leaving the camera in my bag for a couple of days. Double-Yay!
03-20-2014 08:58 AM
It's a shame we have to install third party firmware to make our cameras work the way we expect them to, but I was looking for a reason to install Magic Lantern on my 6D anyway.
03-20-2014 03:43 PM
Magic lantern or Tragic lantern?
I installed latest magic lantern and don´t find the function. But I found the SET-button for centre autofocus. Perfect!