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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

Small sample size, but I definitely experienced this as well on a job. (5d3+580EXII)

I thought it was a personal learning curve situation at the time, but focus would hunt for 2, 3, 4 seconds and often not ever find a solution.

I was using primarily the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II at all focal lengths

Subjects were anywhere from 10 feet to 40 feet away

Mostly Spot AF, and I believe occaisionally AF Expansion - 8 additional

Thank you. 

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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

I find I have the problem with the 3 lenses I have, I own a 24.1.4 II and a 50.1.4 and a 70-200 I L 2.8 and all lenses caursed the 5D3 to almost "hang" like it was just not doing anything, you can imagine witnessing this for the first time you start to sweat, " like whao what the hell is happening"  I have just now tested the 5D3 with the 430EXII and can see that when I focus on anything that is darker, a black Bag etc, a darker toned object the 5d3 will only focus when the 430EXII has beamed atleast 3 times, I do believe the problem is not only with the 430EXII but with all other Canonspeedlites, 

I can imagine from other people stating its worse with the 70-200 is because at lengh the beam is also weaker, when I first noticed the problem I was doing work at no more than 6 feet away.

 

It makes me think that the 2 units are not in sync with each other when in darker situations,

 

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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

I would also like to add, i used Centre Point AF, then tried to use expanded points, nothing helped,

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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

same here on 5D3 with these lenses: 70-200 f2.8L II, 24-70 2.8L II, 35L, 50 1.4

happens occasionally with all lenses with 580EX II and 600EX RT. 

For me it is always a low-light wedding reception. i'm usually 2-5 meters away from subjects. 

i do have my shutter release priority to Focus.

when this happens, it is pretty embarassing.

 

waiting for the "oh, wow that takes long to focus... what kind of camera is that?" 

 

hope this can be fixed soon!

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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

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Problem is always present in near dark environments (nightclubs, dark wedding receptions), usually shooting people and the scene. AF Assist beam ON with the 580EXII and the 600EX

 

1. I primarily use the 24-70 L II. The problem arises above the 35mm range, very often at 70mm.

2. Distance to the subject is between 1 to 2 meters. The more the distance the more lag.

3. I always use Single Point AF at the center. Outer edges are noticable more lagging.

 

Mode : M

shutter: varieing betweeen 0.8-1/100 seconds, depending on the situation

F-number: 2.8-4.5

AWB

ISO 800-2500

One Shot AF

Evalutative meting

 

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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

Jusy going to follow.  

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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

So I put my new 70-200 2.8 II on my 5D3 and tried out 600EX-RT and tried it out in a very dark room. Like Jaayres20 stated at times it would blink 3 times before AF lock. Other times was almost instant. Room was so dark it did not work at all without it.

 

Obsevations. 

 

1. Wiggle room. The flash has a bit of play in the shoe.  At 15 -20 feet if you move the flash to the left and then to the right there is a significant difference of where the vertical beams line up as compared to the center focus point.

 

2. The vertical beams are pretty wide at 15 - 20 feet.  

 

3. It seems the AF assist is a bit weak in illumination for that distance but I'm not sure.  I sold my 580's so I can't compare.

 

Seems to me the grid patterns in my 600 and not not sure about other flashes are not fine enough. Is the focus point being completely within strip of AF assist light (or not) causing this at times? I imagine that the whole idea of the patterns is to create contrast at the target. If the focus point is completely within the red strip does it still work? I'm not an engineer but my thought is somewhat, however weak illumination would be a hinderance as well. 

 

I used to own a 5D2, 70-200 F4 IS and 580EX II and I don't recall this amount of lag. I have yet to field test the new gear. It is not horrible but definately not comfortable at this point.   

 

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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

So I tried my 600 and 70-200 2.8 on my 7D and in my opinion the lag time is about the same.   

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Registered: ‎11-28-2012

Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

Im having the same problems. But i dont think its just an AF beam issue, my 5d3 is slow to focus in any low light situation.

 

As a festival/nightclub photographer, i bought the 5d3 to take advantage of the high iso along with the new af system. The 5d3 failed me. Im having to go back to the 5d2 which is amazing at focusing with low light and also using the af assist beams (ste2 transmitter and 580ii).

 

Im using it with these lenses

 

14mm 2.8L

15mm fisheye 2.8

35mm 1.4L

50mm 1.2L

85mm 1.2L

 

Ive experimented with the af settings in the menu and also with different focus points but still no joy.

 

 

This is extremely frustrating and totally unacceptable. How can Canon get something this important so wrong?

 

 

 

 

Marc

www.marcdegroot.co.uk

 

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Re: 5D3 + AF assist beam = slower focus

Canon 1DX have same problam

slower focus in dark with 600EX-RT

35MM F1.4

50MM F1.2

85MM F1.8

all my lens are same problem

i think its new focus system bugs

compare with my 1D mark IV

it's very slower on focus

please fix the problam quickly ^^

 

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