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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please

WOW--phenomenal shots!!! Thanks for sharing.  It is rainy here in Jersey so I am hoping for the best tonight. I know the game well--my Senior has been playing since he was 5, missing only last year. I have been shooting for the team for a few years on just a basic Canon Rebel 3i in daylight only. So, this year, my son being on Varsity, we have only Friday NIGHT games. So, I invested in a Rebel 6i and a Canon EF70-200mm 1:4L for the night shots. I know--I should have spent the extra $600 and got the 1.4 lens, but it's only one season of nighttime and it wasn't in the budget. 

 

So, here in Jersey the game starts at 7:00 p.m., sunset is 7:21 and from there it progressively gets darker. We have a turf field, which is good due to the rain we are having today and the lighting on the field is actually really great. Unfortunately, the team doesn't practice at night for me to try to shoot them during practice. But, I am sure tonight will be a disaster in trying to get the camera settings right, but I will learn. I have gotten so much great advice on here and I thank all of you. I will be sure to share my photos tomorrow. Thanks so much.  

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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please

The settings will be easy. Use what I suggested and check the LCD on the back of the camera often. Make necessary adjustments if needed. Don’t mess with all the red for now.
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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please

Red = rest sorry I am on my lphone 😬
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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please

Thanks and good luck tonight (both you and your son!)

 

Good field lighting definitely helps.  Try setting your camera to Av mode with the lens wide open (F4), set the ISO to 6400, and see what it gives you for shutter speed. To me, 1/500 is about the slowest usable for action sports like football and soccer but higher is much better.  If the camera selected shutter speed is slower than 1/500 then bump your ISO up.  OR if the lighting is unusually good for a high school field and ISO 6,400 results in 1/1000 or better then decrease ISO but that won't happen unless the lighting is really good. 

 

Also experiment a little tonight shooting with the camera set to manual aperture and shutter control with ISO set to auto.  With the aperture wide open @ F4, try a few shots at 1/500, 1/640, 1/800, and 1/1,000 (if there is enough light to get a standard exposure within your camera's ISO range) and decide once you process them what settings give you the best overall results of shutter speed and ISO noise.  In general, significant noise can be reasonably addressed in post but motion blur cannot and so when necessary bias towards higher shutter speed and higher ISO when necessary.

 

The second photo in my games shots above was shot at 1/800 ISO 16,000 and the third was at 1/640 ISO 8,000.  Last year the team played an afternoon game at Memorial Stadium in Champaign and it was so nice to be able to shoot at high shutter speed and native ISO but that doesn't happen often with HS football.  My daughter also really enjoyed that game because it was her first time to see her HS team play in Memorial stadium and I got a sidelines pass for her also.

 

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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please

eBiggs thanks for that list!

A common setting for example is ...........

Av set at f2.8

Auto ISO 

WB auto

Ai-servo

BBF

High speed continuous

jpg file format, yeah they don't use Raw

I had to look up what BBF meant, watched a couple you tubes on it and am glad I did

There were lots of other very informative posts on this topic for me to digest but yours, for me, is initially less overwhelming as well as a good starting point to build on.

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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please

😊
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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please


@John_ wrote:

eBiggs thanks for that list!

A common setting for example is ...........

Av set at f2.8

Auto ISO 

WB auto

Ai-servo

BBF

High speed continuous

jpg file format, yeah they don't use Raw

I had to look up what BBF meant, watched a couple you tubes on it and am glad I did

There were lots of other very informative posts on this topic for me to digest but yours, for me, is initially less overwhelming as well as a good starting point to build on.


Look up Grant Atkinson on YouTube.

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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please

Thanks, Waddizzle will do!

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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please


@John_ wrote:

Thanks, Waddizzle will do!


He has only a few videos.  But, they are great explanations of how Canon cameras work.

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Re: Night Football Shooting-Need some help please

Indeed! I watched 2 already

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