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Re: Birding On a tight budget - should I buy less now or wait to buy right?


@kneale wrote:

I used the kit lens, Canon EFS 18-135 USM. 


I use the STM version of that lens, and I think you made a wise choice. I did not fall into the trap of believing that I needed pro-level or even enthusiast-level lenses in the beginning. There is a lot more to photography, I am learning, than focal length or "L" glass. A great and expensive lens would have been a waste for me as I didn't know diddly about composition, light, framing, manual control, Tv/Av priorities, etc. I wanted to learn about DSLR photography and I discovered I didn't need a high-end lens, or camera, in the beginning.

 

I don't shoot birds, but I do consider myself more of an "outdoor photographer" than a portrait, fashion, sports photograper, etc. I am often shooting in the desert, mountains or by tidepools. I did not need to mess up an "L" lens before I had a clue about what I was doing. So I think you took a very sensible approach in sticking with the 18-135mm. No doubt by the time you really want to get that 600mm glass, you'll have come a long way in understanding DSLR photography and what makes the difference between a good shot and a great shot. 

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Re: Birding On a tight budget - should I buy less now or wait to buy right?

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I caught my first hummer today! There is a lot of noise in these pics but I will get it right in time. If anyone has some tips on that please let me know. used the EF-S 18-135 USM and set my camera to shade, ISO 1000 (I think) and shutter speed was I believe at 1200, f8. I'll have to double check and if I'm wrong I'll come back and edit. Ran out of battery so can't look at the moment. I'm also posting a shot I took last night of a Chickadee in my mulberry tree. Not sure of the settings for that at all. Will check later. Also, All off these were uploaded to FB first and then downloaded to my computer. I need to figure out how to upload photos directly to my computer because I'm sure I lose quality with all of the uploads and downloads. Karen33584509_10216062043934902_8915309189652283392_n.jpg33597405_10216062020694321_3704966040820645888_n (1).jpg33743068_10216062025774448_1672552761478086656_n.jpg33584509_10216062043934902_8915309189652283392_n.jpg

 

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Re: Birding On a tight budget - should I buy less now or wait to buy right?

Karen,

You know the 135mm FL is too short.  It is going to be difficult to get the best bird shots with it. I image you are severely cropping your shots?  Some of the advice you have gotten isn't good either.  You mostly want to use Av. Not Tv.  Set the aperture to f8 and let the camera choose the SS.  It will select the fastest SS to get a proper exposure.  ISO needs to be in the 1600 range.

Lastly always, I mean always shoot Raw.  Forget jpg exists.  Keep using the gear you have until you can buy a 300mm or longer FL lens.  Look used it that helps.

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Re: Birding On a tight budget - should I buy less now or wait to buy right?

Ebiggs1, is it Ernie? Yes, I understand about the lens. So my pictures are grainy because I am trying to shoot with the 135 and cropping them too close? I am shooting raw and jpeg, so I have all of the data in the originals. Just not sure how to upload them to my computer. I've got the app on my phone so I upload there and then to Facebook, then download and post here. I know it's ridiculous. I'll have to see if I can download the app to my computer to cut out several steps and degradation of the original.  

 

Thank you for the input. I truly appreciate it. I definitely need the better lens. 

 

Karen

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Re: Birding On a tight budget - should I buy less now or wait to buy right?


@kneale wrote:

 Also, All off these were uploaded to FB first and then downloaded to my computer. I need to figure out how to upload photos directly to my computer because I'm sure I lose quality with all of the uploads and downloads. Karen


You are correct.  The round trip through FB does not help image quality.  The simplest way to get photos out of the camera, and onto your computer, is with an inexpensive card reader, which plugs into a standard USB port.

I like to use the free Canon EOS utility, which somewhat automates the transfer process, allowing me to automatically rename files on the fly.

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Re: Birding On a tight budget - should I buy less now or wait to buy right?

"Ebiggs1, is it Ernie?"

 

It is !  Smiley Happy

 

Forget the jpg.  You don't need it or even want it.  You got a free app from Canon (or you can d/l it for free) that will do the task..  It is DPP4.  You can use a USB cable to u/l to your computer and DPP wil convert them to jpg and let you do a bunch of editing.  When you get some budget for a new editor get Lightroom.  At this point is is only available with a rental mode from Adobe.  It is $9.99 per month and it includes Photoshop.  These two are the most powerful and most used editing packages on the planet.  

I have been on a shoot in New York for the Fleet Week.  I was unable to get on FB but here is a shot or two I took.

 

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Re: Birding On a tight budget - should I buy less now or wait to buy right?

Nice shots, Ernie, especially the first one. Is that an HDR composite, or did you just turn up the color saturation?

Bob
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It is a 4 shot HDR.  It is from the Queen of New York out on the Hudson River.  I hope Karen doesn't mind it isn't a bird photo !

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Re: Birding On a tight budget - should I buy less now or wait to buy right?


@ebiggs1 wrote:

It is a 4 shot HDR.  It is from the Queen of New York out on the Hudson River.  I hope Karen doesn't mind it isn't a bird photo !


Ahh, there are probably birds in there if one looks hard enough. These days many tall buildings have a family of hawks or falcons that live on the roof or in some nook or cranny. A large city has enough mice and pigeons to keep them well fed.

Bob
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Good probability!  Smiley Happy  The shot from a bouncing boat didn't make it any easier.

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