Just ordered a 5d4

[ScottyP]

The two big camera houses were in a pre-black-Friday price war and I finally couldn't resist. In 5-7 business days I will have the camera, a battery grip, an extra Canon battery, a Pixima printer, a couple reams of photo paper, a 64gig SD card. 

Now of course this forces me into a distasteful dilemma. I have Lightroom 5, and never upgraded to version 5.7.  I don't want to fiddle around with a separate RAW converter or TIFF files or anything. I either need to buy the soon-to-be-discontinued LR 6 stand-alone or else I need the stupid Adobe everything subscription just to rent Lightroom, since I don't use a single one of the other programs in their bundle. 

[ebiggs1]

You did the right thing.  Now you don't have to settle for an editor that is "almost as good".  

[ScottyP]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

Be forewarned, the Pixma Pro-100 is big and heavy.  It weighs in at over 40 pounds, and you need to allow for over an extra foot of space on the front side for the printed output.

I use it as a temporary desk.  Seriously, it is a great printer.

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To be honest I was considering selling the printer on Craigslist. The crazy bundle deal threw in the printer and battery grip, memory card, battery, and paper and still at a lower price than was ever charged for the body alone from an authorized dealer.   I just ordered like 30+ prints from Adorama Pix, some of which were 5x7, and with shipping it was only 15 bucks. 

[ScottyP]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

Well Scotty you have just turned me green with envy.   If I were to buy a new camera today it would be the 5D Mk IV.  What's not to love?

Software?  I hope you d/l the DxO Optics 11 for free?  Another solution is to get a copy of Photoshop CS6.  The last stand alone from Adobe.  It works seamlessly with either DxO Optics or DPP4.  CS6 (PS) has Bridge included for free.  Bridge does most all the file control, ratings, etc, that LR does.  Of course you can try to find a stand alone version of LR6. It has 5D4 support, but I am not sure it supports dual pixel.

Now one big reason to have CS6 is you also got the Pixma Pro 100 printer?  One fantastic printer.  I have had 6 Pixma large format printers. I am currently down to just one Pro 100.  The Pro 100 is one of the reasons I suggested you check into CS6.  Photoshop has more printer control, easier to get to than any of the other programs.  It makes printing and life much less frustrating. With the Pro 100 you will need to learn ICC profiles which work seamlessly with PS.  Mandatory you learn ICC profiles.

BTW, one more tip, have printing sessions in favore of a print here and a print there.  Each time you print, turn the machine off and back on, the Pro 100 mixes the ink and cleans the nozzles.  If you do a lot of single printing you will use a lot more ink. 

One more, the Pro 100 is not a general office printer.   Don't try to make it one.  It is a photo printer.

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Hi Ernie,  How good are the prints?  I figure a place like one of the biggest print shops use a printer costing a couple hundred thousand dollars.  I've not printed images myself so I honestly don't know.  

[jrhoffman75]

Color prints from the Pro-100 are excellent. A colorful landscape on Platinum Paper is outstanding.

If you decide to use the printer check-out jtoolman videos on YouTube.

[Waddizzle]

"To be honest I was considering selling the printer on Craigslist. The crazy bundle deal threw in the printer and battery grip, memory card, battery, and paper and still at a lower price than was ever charged for the body alone from an authorized dealer.  

I just ordered like 30+ prints from Adorama Pix, some of which were 5x7, and with shipping it was only 15 bucks."

I wound up my Pro-100 the same way, as part of a package deal.  The net cost of the printer was less than the ink to refill it.  I needed a second hand to move the large box that Canon uses to package the printer. If you do sell it, shipping it will be costly.

The printer produces really great prints, even at 13x19, which can fit 4 5x7 prints on a single sheet, or an 11x17 frame.  I bought a paper shear, so I can trim prints down to fit frames.  I can make my own gifts for people.

[ebiggs1]

Scotty,

You can't do this with the Pro-100....

" I just ordered like 30+ prints from Adorama Pix, some of which were 5x7, and with shipping it was only 15 bucks. "

The cost of most any print you make will be higher (could be much higher!) most likely.  The ink to fill it, when it comes time to do so is around $125 bucks.  The question really becomes, "Do you need a printer like this?"  In my case the answer is, yes.  In fact like I said the one I have now is my 6th.  Starting with the 9000 way back there.

Remember I sold my work.  I sold my prints.  I needed them when I needed them. I wanted total control over them. The amount of creativity is enormous.  Cost was/is almost secondary.

"How good are the prints?"

The prints can be as good to better than you can buy.  Depends on you not the Pro-100.  It can do it no doubt.

"I've not printed images myself so I honestly don't know."

This is how it goes if you are like most of us.  Pretty overwhelmed at first.  So-so prints at first.  Spending way too much money on paper and ink.  Then when things start to make sense, beautiful prints come out and the money doesn't matter as much.  Now the problem is finding enough wall space to hang all of them.  Making too many trips to Hobby Lobby buying frames!

I will guarantee you one thing, that first 13x19 will impress you!  The ability to have the print right now is a huge plus to me even now.

Last thought, the printer didn't cost you anything from what you said.  It isn't costing anything just sitting there provided you have the room for it.  Why not give it a try?  You got paper. You got ink.  You got LR.  Sounds like all you need to do is hit "Print".

[ebiggs1]

OK now I thought of some more 'last thoughts'. 

Check out Red River papers.  They have some outstanding papers and profiles for all of them.  I especially like the metal paper and canvas.

And, like I said schedule printing sessions.  Do several at a time.  Not just one here and one later and...and...  The Pro-100 takes good care of its ink even when it isn't being used so it sits patiently waiting for you.  Sometimes it is a week, or more, between my printing sessions.  Nothing like I used to be but it still works well.

Check out Red River.  Also remember you need to use special profiles for each paper. If you don't get a profile with a certain paper don't buy it.

[jrhoffman75]

Also keep an eye on the Canon eStore. They frequently have free paper deals when you buy ink.

+1 on Red River.

[Choreo]

I took advantage of the same promotion sounds like. I have been waitig for several months for Cyber Monday to hopefully get a deal on a 5D4. I said that if they dropped the price $100 and threw in a battery grip, I woud go for it, but I really did not think anyone would offer that deal. I never dreamed that I would get a price drop, free battrery grip, Extreme SD Card, Pixma-100 Printer, 50 sheets of 13" x 19" Canon Paper, Canon Extended 13 month Care Plan AND a $350 Amex Prepaid VISA Card Rebate from Canon!!!

Final cost was $2,850 after rebate!!!

I shoot tethered and even though I am a full Adobe CC subscriber, Lightroom Classic CC is not the fastest at "capturing", so I went ahead and took the Capture One plunge. I also use Luminar, Aurora and OnOne, but could not wait any longer for their DAM's to launch.

The printer is great, but I already have 7 other printers and even though I sell my prints, in-house printing has always resulted in a financial loss for me. All I can say is these big print shops my be getting ink for 1/10th of the cost that I have to pay! The worst experience was my Tektronix 780 $13,000 printer that went to the dumpter after 600 color laser prints (printer was rated for 10,000 prints per month). My Tektronix 600 36" wide printer also went to the dumpster after 50 prints. Xerox took over Tektronix and in both cases I had about a $15 part go out that could not be replaced (no inventory or aftermarket stock). So about $30 worth of nylon gears cost me nearly $30,000 including supplies! Almost went bankrupt over "printers" So, not more high-end printers for me!

[ebiggs1]

Sounds like you have been pretty unlucky with printers.  But I would certainly recommend you give that Pro-100 a chance and a try.  You really have nothing to loose at this point.  Free ink and free paper!  My main job was with a company that had every conceivable way to put ink on paper.  I had a $40,000 dollar 40" printer in my office.  Ink cartridges were $350 bucks.

Of course the Pro-100 can't make 40" prints but what it does make rivals that high dollar printer at a fraction of the cost.

In my home office I used four of the big Pixma Pro printers.  I still have one now that I have retried.  I never really take any good care of them and they still just work.

BTW, what were you charging for your prints?  It sounds like, not enough!  One of my associates used to specialize in what we called 'couch prints' because they were about the size of a couch.  A framed couch print was $2500.