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I have just bought a 5D Mark III and have a questions on sports settings.

Dhendley
Apprentice

I am shooting at my sons rugby game and sports day in the coming weeks and would like to make sure my camera is set up correctly. I am using a 70-200 mm lens 2.8 with 2x converter, ( so goes to 5.6 when using). 

- I am shooting Al Servo

- evaluative metering

- shutter above 1000

- custom controls - shutter butt. half-press

                            - AF - ON

                            - AE - lock

                            - Lens - AF stop

- Picture Stype - portrait

AF settings 

- Case 2 - continue to track subjects, ignoring possible obstacles

- Al Servo 1st image priority

- selectable AF point - 61 points

- select AF area selec mode - all 6 boxes are checked..is this correct?

- AF area selection method - main dial

- orientation linked AF point - same for both vert/horiz

- manual AF pt selec. pattern - continous

- AF point display during focus - selected (constant)

 

 

I really appreciate any help on these settings, I would like to get the settings correct and am feeling a bit clueless right now.

 

thank you

 

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ebiggs1
Legend

Well, I am of little help since I never shot a Rugby game before. I don't even know what Rugby is or what the field looks like.

But one thing for sure it better be well lighted for f5.6 and 1/1000. You need to get up on the high side of your ISO range i.e. 1600 likely.

I would also use center point only for the AF. Probably center-weighted meter, too. You know you can 'zoom' with your own two feet which may reduce your need for the 2x.

EB
EOS 1DX and 1D Mk IV and several lenses!

thanks for this, I appreciate your help

Ed1715
Contributor

While I don't have the 5D Mark III, I do have the 1D MK IV and there may be some information that you will find useful.  It appears that you are shooting jpeg.  I'd encourage you to consider RAW.  In RAW the Picture style won't matter, unless you are using DPP for post.

I'd also suggest setting up your camera for back button focus. I would use the center focus point.   As this sport is mostly moving right to left/left to right I'd suggest setting the AI servo tracking sensitivity towards slow and I'd also set AI servo 1st/2nd image priority to AF priority/Tracking priority.  I would also only set AF expansion to left/right AF point if I was setting it at all.

I don't know if the terminology is the same for the MK III and MK IV but they should be close. 

The 2x will degrade image quality somewhat.  If you have access to the 1.4 you may be happier with that even though you lose a little reach.

I don't believe you indicate what shooting mode you'll be in.  Manual or Tv would be my suggestion, especially if the light is decent.  It's surprising how easily motion blur can creep into a photo. 

Good luck.  Hope this is helpful

Ed

40D, 1D MKIV, 28-135mm, 24-70mmf2.8L, 70-200mmf2.8L, 500mmf4.0L, 580EXII, Gitzo3530LS w/Wimberly Gimbal, Manfrotto 190XBPROB and a bunch of other stuff.

thank you for your input, I really appreciate it, and yest this does help. 

TCampbell
Elite

I have a 5D III ... I don't shoot sports but I can offer some info.

 

First and foremost... if you don't already have this (becuase it doesn't come with the camera), go to this page and in the lower left corner is a link to download the Canon guide-book on the AF system that your camera has.  It's a 47 page book on JUST using the focus system on your camera.  It says "1D X" but if you read the page you'll see that it was really intended for the 1D X and the 5D III.

 

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2012/1dx_guidebook.shtml

 

Next, Rudy Winston (Canon USA) has a video series on using the new features of the 1D X (in 5 parts) and the first 3 parts explain features of the auto-focus system:

 

Part 1:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6KkQcNI8w

Part 2:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4dDzIDB6_A

Part 3:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7n2cWfLk8s

 

You want AI Servo -- since your subject distance may be changing and this provides for continuous focus.

 

Evaluative metering is fine since this will evaluate all metering zones.

 

Shutter above 1/1000th is also fine -- this will freeze action

 

On the custom controls, each of the ten options will tell you what the camera will do when you press that control.  

 

For example:  You might want to use "back button focus" behavior.  For this you would set the "Shutter button half-press" behavior to "Metering start" (not not AF), THEN set the "AF-ON" button to "Metering and AF start".  This way the camera will ONLY focus if you press the AF-ON button with your thumb.  

 

All this is probably not necessary with the 5D III's focusing system because the whole point of you picking "Case 2: Continue to track subjects, ignoring possible obstacles" is that it eliminates the need to configure the camera for back-button focus.  It's one of the benefits of shooting with a 5D III or 1D X body.  With any other body... you'd configure back-button focus behavior.

 

Your "AI Servo 1st image priority" and "AI Servo 2nd image priority" control whether the camera uses "focus priority" (wont shoot until focus is confirmed) or "release priority" (will shoot when you press the button whether it was focused or not) or a blending of the two.  The "AI Servo 2nd image priority" affects the behavior of all subsequent frames after the first frame when using continuous shooting mode.  

 

Selectable AF point - 61 points means the camera is allowed to use ANY of the focus points to lock focus.  Keep in mind that the camera will gravitate to the nearest subject when using this mode.  If other players are closer than your son and you want to make sure the camera focuses on your son then you'd want to use a different focus mode to narrow the area where the camera looks for focus.  

 

The "AF area select mode" doesn't affect shooting... when you decide to change focus modes, you can switch off certain focus modes you don't ever think you'd use.  For example... if you have two favorite modes and you just want to swtich between them quickly, you can turn the other modes off.  That way you don't have to keep pusing the button to change focus modes until the mode you want appears (because each time you push the mode change button it cycles to the next mode.)

 

AF area selection mode - main dial.  that just means when using a mode OTHER than the 61-point AF mode (where you just want to use some points) the way you'll tell the camera WHICH points you want to use is by turning the wheel.  I use use the 8-way navigator on the back). 

 

Orientation linked AF means that if you tell the camera you want to pick some focus points in, say... the "upper right" corner and you are holding the camera level (horizontally)... what should it do when you turn the camera on it's side?  If the orientation is NOT linked, then the points you pick are the points you pick regardless of the camera orientation.  If the orientation IS linked, then it means your selection of points in the "upper right corner" is will be maintained... so when you flip the camera on it's side, it'll automatically swtich AF points so that the poitns are STILL in the "upper right corner".

 

The manual AF point selection pattern tells the camera if the focus points should "wrap around" when you keep navigating off the edge of the screen.  e.g. I use joystick... so this means that if I'm already on the right-most AF point... and I nudge the joystick right one more time ... it'll actually "wrap" back around to the left edge.  If I turn this off then when I hit the right edge and nudge to go right one more time nothing will happen (because I'm already as far to the right as it can go.)  

 

Get out and practice with the AF system controls -- it takes a bit of learning but you'll find it's quite powerful and once you get the feel for it you will really appreciate having it.

 

Tim Campbell
5D III, 5D IV, 60Da

ebiggs1
Legend

Or, you can set your camera to "P" for professional and probably get pretty amazing photos. The 5D Mk III is remarkably capable all by itself! Smiley LOL

EB
EOS 1DX and 1D Mk IV and several lenses!

DLB1117
Apprentice

The 2x converter makes that $2,500 lens a $1,200 lens. Unless you need a billboard size print, you can likely crop an excellent print from the 70-200 and get the full benefit of your lens. (assuming its the 70-200 1:2.8 L IS II).

In addition to the excellent information already provided, set the stabilizer mode to "2" to fully benefit from the horizontal stabilization feature.

The 2x converter degrades image quality and also hampers focusing (in my experience).

 

"The 2x converter makes that $2,500 lens a $1,200 lens."  <-----A wise man, ideed! I agree

EB
EOS 1DX and 1D Mk IV and several lenses!
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