10-18-2024 01:36 PM - edited 10-18-2024 03:58 PM
We are looking into getting new cameras for myself and my agencies investigators. I do crime scene work and am currently using a Canon Rebel T6 which works fine other than I cannot move the LCD monitor which I need in some scenes. What are your thoughts on the mirrorless cameras vs the DSLR cameras? We don't need anything fancy just something that will get the job done in outdoor and low light and crowded conditions. I don't take videos with the camera since we have a video camera that does that. At my old agency I used the Canon T3i which I loved! I need some direction on what to get. Thanks for any advice
10-18-2024 01:46 PM
"I cannot move the viewfinder"
What does this mean? Do you need an articulating LCD screen?
10-18-2024 03:57 PM
Sorry my error I need to be able to move the LCD monitor not the viewfinder.
10-18-2024 03:01 PM - edited 10-18-2024 03:12 PM
Hi and welcome to the forum:
Back in the day, I did a little forensic work so I hope I can offer some relevant suggestions. Much, as always, depends on your budget. While I recognize that you had used the T6, which is a crop APS-C camera, for low light I suggest a full-frame sensor which normally has much better performance, and one with not a huge MP capacity - for much the same reason.
I would definitely encourage you to go with the R-series bodies and lenses and I would suggest the following, although it would mean you will need a new lens or lenses:
The Canon EOS R8 has a 24MP full-frame sensor with excellent low-light performance. It has brilliant focusing system and an fully articulating screen. You can produce a wide range of printed images from this for trial purposes - although I suspect most will be on a digital display these days.
As to lenses:
You may have been using the EF-S 18-55mm kit lenses for the T6, and the equivalent to that for the FF bodies is a RF 24-105 variant that would give you an equivalent FoV to a 15-65mm lens on your T6.
There is an f/4 L version with a constant aperture, or a non-L version that is cheaper but still a good performer and you might consider that for some specific situations where better resolution and focal range is needed.
Otherwise, you can get a kit with the R8 body and a 24-50mm lens: which would be like a 15-32mm lens on your T6.
EOS R8 RF24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM Lens Kit (canon.com)
10-18-2024 03:04 PM
What about articulating screens which I think is what the OP considers a desirable feature?
10-18-2024 03:08 PM - edited 10-18-2024 03:14 PM
I can see why Keith - some of the situations are extremely cramped and awkward, with evidence low to the ground and needing a view in from ground level.
The R8 has a fully-articulating screen, as I mentioned.
See: Canon EOS R8 Overview: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)
It should be noted that the R8, as with many R-series bodies, does not have a built-in flash but you can get economical ones that fit on the hot shoe mount
10-18-2024 03:39 PM
As an afterthought, instead of a flash, I would suggest a compact USB charged LED light panel. They are cheap and provide a constant light, so easy for the camera's sensor to work with and because the mirrorless show you exactly the exposure, you can set up the light right from the start.
Best On Camera Lights in 2024 (Continuous LED Light Panels) (shotkit.com)
10-18-2024 04:43 PM
Thank you so much for your help I was at a loss on what to get. I am totally okay with not having a built in flash as they usually do not provide enough light since it only goes out so far. I always have used an external flash so I can bounce the light when needed. I have never heard of a compact USB charged light panel and will definitely look into one of those as well as the R8. Thank you again
10-18-2024 05:26 PM
Trevor what macro lens would you recommend for the EOS R8? My new agency only has the macro lens diopters for the T6 rather then just having the lens and I am not fond of them. I rather just have one lens to put on to take the close up examination photos of prints, etc.
10-18-2024 11:02 PM
I would always avoid the macro, or close-up filters, they offer generally very poor resolutions.
Being a full-frame camera, I would say that there are a lot of lenses that offer close-up performance. Again, not knowing a $value it is easy to spend money you don't have, but for a professional operation I shall hazard some suggestions:
At the low end, the RF24mm F1.8 MACRO IS STM (canon.com) for around $550. At 24mm, you will have to get pretty close to the subject to fill the frame.
Next up, and slightly cheaper, is the RF35mm F1.8 Macro IS STM (canon.com) at $450. Again you need to be pretty close but not as close as the 24mm.
Now, getting into serious quality (being an L lens) but still at a reasonable price, is the
RF100mm F2.8 L Macro IS USM (canon.com) at just under $1,000
If we go for lenses that are not specifically macro, then there is a lot more choice: For example, I used the RF 24-105 L f/4 to photograph minute circuits used in lab experiments using this lens and it did a great job, in available light, hand-held, as an example of the story involve:
The researchers were doing this using powerful microscopes:
Considering this is a general-purpose lens that could also do your forensic work, it's a great and flexible workhorse. Being built for pro use it will take punishment of a news agency.
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