01-20-2021 12:08 PM
Hello all! I'm a recently transformed astrophotographer, and I'm now focusing on nature and wildlife.
I own a Canon 80D with lense options of 18-55mm and 75-300mm.
I'm looking for a good lense to add for farther out wildlife and nature photography.
Thank you all for the help! I'm realizing that this is a far different skill set than I'm used to.
01-20-2021 02:09 PM
Almost any of the 150-600 mm lenses work great.
This a crop.
This shows how far away they were. One of the dots in the water are these otters.
01-20-2021 03:14 PM
I agree with the above advice & can warn you that you are correct thinking there is a learning curve. Longer lenses mean steadier hands & faster shutter speeds or a very good tripod. Fortunately they do come with image stabilizers built in
01-20-2021 03:20 PM
My shots above are a good example. I was on a cliff in *very* windy conditions. I had to balance the lens on my knees. The bright sunlight saved me. BTW, this was just south of Big Sur.
01-21-2021 10:37 AM - edited 01-21-2021 10:39 AM
"I'm looking for a good lense to add for farther out wildlife and nature photography."
Unlike astro work wildlife photography is not about a long tele lens to shoot farther away stuff. It is to make small and tiny stuff appear larger in the camera's frame. In fact the number one rule in wildlife photography is get closer. As suggested above any of the 150-600mm super zooms is a good choice. That is if price vs performance usability is considered. There are better but more, to way more, expensive choices.
Another good choice if you like prime lenses, more like what is used in astro work, would be the EF 400mm f/5.6L USM Lens. One more is the EF 300mm f/4L IS USM Lens and adding the 1.4x telecon. This gives you more FL choice in a prime lens.
A brand new to the market is the Sigma 60-600mm f/4.5-6.3 DG OS HSM Sports Lens. It is heavy and big and spectacular.
If you wnat to remain Canon the only real offering they have in the super zoom category is the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Lens. It is excellent and handles the 1.4x telecon very well.
01-21-2021 10:38 AM
"I own a Canon 80D with lense options of 18-55mm and 75-300mm."
Just curious, you did astro work with these lenses?
01-21-2021 01:20 PM
Haha nooooo. This is just what I've had for hobby photography for a couple of years.
For astrophotography I used imaging telescopes with mono-cameras designed for eyepieces.
01-21-2021 04:37 PM
Again the purpose of a super telephoto for wildlife is to make small animals look larger in the frame. Or put another way fill the frame with the subject. To this getting closer is key. Closer is always better than more FL. As you distance increases the ability of the lens to resolve the subject goes down as seen from the critters in the cliff/ocean photo above.
I was about 35' to 40' from this magnificent hawk. He/she was getting impatient from my intense interest in taking the photo.
Telephoto lenses let you keep a safe distance form subjects that can express their will, sometimes forcefully, on you.
A crop of another shot of the same hawk.
EOS 1D Mk IV, Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Sports Lens@600mm, f6.3, 1/2000, ISO 800
01-21-2021 10:34 PM
The 400 f5.6 that Ernie mentioned is a very good lens that I have owned for years. In addition to producing sharp images, it also focuses very quickly which is critical for wildlife.
There are times that the 1.4X extenders are useful but with the increasing pixel count of DSLRs and sensors that offer excellent images with a moderate number of pixels (like the 20 MP sensor used in the 1DX III), cropping versus using a 1.4X is something to consider.
I went to Iowa earlier this week to photograph eagles and most shots were with a 1DX III and EF 800 f5.6 and I used a Canon 1.4X converter part of the time but even with an expensive prime and 1 series camera the focus acquisition slows a bit and that effect is worse with less capable lenses and bodies. When the eagles were sitting still, I used the 1.4X some but in general I found I was happier with the bare lens. And as Ernie noted, the closer you can get the better but since the river ice was thin (which is why the eagles were there) I wasn't going swimming in freezing water with my cameras 🙂
This series was shot with the 1DX III and bare EF 800. Once the eagle was on the ice, I could have added the 1.4X but if I had done that I likely would have missed the next good eagle action. These images were all using around 25% of the 1DX III's sensor so pretty heavily cropped.
01-21-2021 10:43 PM
And it is also easy to have too much focal length at times for wildlife. This is where zoom versus prime comes into play and sometimes it would be better to give up some focus speed and sharpness for the versatility of a zoom. With fast moving wildlife, even with a zoom you don't want to try to nearly fill the frame because the movement is too unpredictable. Shooting football I can do pretty well filling much of the sensor area with the desired subject but unlike football I have almost no ability to predict what wildlife is going to do.
This next series is an example of too much focal length. This eagle was doing some interesting maneuvering and I was tracking him nicely with the EF 800 when he suddenly went to full afterburner on a vector in my direction. If I hadn't been freezing in 8F weather with a heavy wind I might have been able to switch to my second body with the EF 400 f2.8 in time but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades so I missed a golden opportunity. The first shot I didn't anticipate his dive speed rate of change and the very shallow depth of field got me so he is not quite in critical focus and not in frame. The next two are a little better but the eagle was moving too fast to frame perfectly. If you do frame such a shot perfectly, it will be an incredible shot but the odds are very much against you. So if you go with a zoom, don't attempt to over zoom when using it.
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