05-31-2021 03:23 PM
I'm wondering if C70 owners are seeing the images from the camera a little soft? Is this a usual thing?
I recently got my C70 (a refurb unit) and started using it. Overall I love it, but when I dropped some C70 footage into a project alongside some existing footage shot on a Sony PXW-X70, I was a little disapointed that the C70 footage was noticeably softer.
Since then I've shot a bunch of tests, covering:
Looks like the same results every time.
Now I'm aware that the X70 may be aggresively sharpening in camera, but it's odd (to me) that the Sony X70 on sharp +0 is significanty sharper than the C70 on +0 -- and even sharper than the C70 on +50, the max. And the C70 just looks blurry.
Am I being over-paranoid? Here are some samples...
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05-31-2021 04:08 PM
From watching various YouTube videos on the C70, I recall hearing that Canon's cinema line produces softer images than what a typical DSLR would generate (e.g. EOS R5). I don't know though if the cinema line is generally softer than typical camcorders as well, to include the PXW-X70. One videographer ending up using a "Pro Mist" filter on the R5 to produce footage a bit more like the EOS C200.
I'm hoping to pick up the C70 tomorrow so looking forward to running various tests. I no longer own my PXW-X70 though so cannot replicate this exact same test.
06-01-2021 01:35 AM
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Generally speaking, our professional-series cameras will have less digital sharpening added because some filmmakers and videographers like to add sharpening in post. I haven't seen anything to suggest that the EOS C70 is less sharp than our other Cinema EOS cameras though.
I would recommend that you clean the metal connectors between lens and camera with a lint-free lens cloth. Then try doing additional tests with different lenses. If you are consistently seeing soft results, you may wish.
If problems persist, I suggest that you email us at firstname.lastname@example.org with details about your camera, your date of purchase, and the state from where you are sending the camera, and we'll walk you through the repair process.
06-01-2021 03:04 PM
Thanks Nick. The more I look at my footage, specially newer footage, the more I think the softness is within the range of the camera's sharpening choices -- in other words, what you're saying.
I think my earlier tests had a lot of very diffuse light which really made them look bad compared to my Sony X70 footage, which was in a much clearer and contrastier setting. The C70 is definitely softer, but the more I look at it the more it looks pretty minor. Sharpening in Premire (using Lumetri sharpening at 100%) brings it right up. Having to go 100% seemed odd too, but I guess Lumetri is really conservative about this.
Of course the X70 is going for a more out-of-the-box shiny look, so of course they're cranking it. I really do appreciate that the C70 doesn't bake sharpening and noise reduction into my footage.
So, still getting used to my C70 -- and loving it.