06-17-2018 10:17 PM
Wait, you said with great emphasis that Canon DOES NOT RECOMMEND using micro-SD cards. Right? So I'm just asking how you learned that. Not trying to be a pain here. Just genuinely trying to learn.
06-18-2018 10:42 AM
I based my observations largely on a response to this very forum post, from Richard, who's listed here as a "Canon Product Expert". If I'm not mistaken, I believe he contributes here on a voluntary basis, so I figure he has no ulterior motive.
As posted by Richard:
"We recommend against the use of cards that require an adapter to fit in the camcorder (i.e. micro-SD or Mini-SD). The increase in the number of connections between the camcorder and memory card (from the memory card to the adapter, then from the adapter to the camcorder) makes a malfunction more likely."
Also, by doing a site search using the search terms "micro", "sd" and "adapter" you will find seven pages of links returned. The majority of the threads concern problems encountered when using micro sd cards and adapters in Canon DSLRs. I took the liberty of extrapolating that information to also apply to Canon video cameras. And I did so feeling that I wasn't taking too big of a technological leap.
Maybe Canon doesn't state their "non-recommendation" more clearly because they also realize that using a micro sd card and adapter can work OK in certain circumstances. But they may also realize, as you've found out, that that they don't always work as reliably as their recommended full-size sd cards.
01-18-2019 03:46 PM
I used the same micro-SD with adapter to film a pretty important music event recently. Everything recorded fine--but now I can't retrieve the video/audio files, in their entirety, from the camera! It plays fine while in the camera but when I remove (for instance) the mico-SD and adapter from the camera and use a card reader, all I have is video. No audio. When I try to offload the files, all I get are error messages.
Am I completely out of any kind of luck here? No way to, say, transfer from the card into the internal memory? I'm fairly desperate as we needed the footage to apply to get into a major music festival this summer--and application deadline is looming.
I agree, too, that it would have been prudent of Canon to state that they did NOT recommend using a micro-SD card in this camera because results cannot be guaranteed. I thought I'd be fine using the adapter--as others apparently thought as well.
Thanks - G
01-18-2019 04:35 PM
Have you tried copying your files with the card and adapter in the camera using the USB cable instead of a card reader? What software are you using to open the videos? Do you have sound when opening other video files shot the same camera on a full size SD card?
01-18-2019 07:53 PM
I first pulled the card out of the camera and used the card reader to work with the files. All I got was video-no audio. Windows Media Player opened them OK and played the video but, no audio. Also was able to open the file this way using Power Director. Again, no audio.
Then I wondered whether I'd have audio if I put the card back into the camcorder. At that point, video and audio played on the camera's screen but I wasn't able to open the file with any other software via the camera with a USB cable connected to the computer. No video, no audio--nada. Just got repeated error messages "unable to retrieve file".
This was the first time I used this camcorder so not sure if a full size SD card will net me different results. Of course, I intend to test it before shooting anything else.
01-19-2019 02:43 PM
I've never had the problem you describe, on my Canon Vixia HF-R800.*
My advice to you:
1 - Your best option is to try to copy the file(s) from the Vixia to your PC over a USB cord from Vixia to PC.
2 - If that fails, you might try playing it from your camera to your PC (over an HDMI cable; you need a mini-HDMI to standard HDMI cable) and recording the input at your PC, ... assuming you have means to do that. If you edit video, your editor can probably do live capture (e.g. Premiere Pro can). If not, then google "capture live video free software" and see what grabs you. I saw Wondershare in one "top ten" list. I have Wondershare for downloading web video, and I like it for that, but I have never tried it for recording a live HDMI-inputted signal.
* I've used mostly micro-SD cards in adapters in it, but at times opted for standard sized SD cards too. To date, the only difference I've seen between micro-SD and SD is the above-hypothesized differnce in reliability of data transfer (where I got the one FAIL, in recording to a micro-SD via adapter, which started this thread).
01-20-2019 06:13 AM
Appreciate all the advice. This entire problem has frustrated me to the Nth degree.
I did attempt to copy the files. I found the camcorder as a "device" on my computer. When I open it up, it shows no files to copy! Yes, I double-checked my settings in the camera, and on the recording itself, to make absolutely certain the file was on the SD card. It is.
I also thought about playing it on my computer through the camera, via HDMI cable, and capturing the footage through PowerDirector that way. They do have that option. However, it won't play on my computer while the SD card is in the camera! The footage only plays on the camera's screen!
The User Manual has a section about transferring files from the internal memory to a removable SD card--but nothing about the reverse. So, I don't even know whether that's possible.
As I mentioned earlier, if I remove the SD card and play the footage on my computer through a card reader, all I get is video--no audio.
I'm not an "expert" at this sort of thing, but not exactly novice either. I mean, I've worked with video footage before so this entire problem baffles me.
01-20-2019 12:24 PM - edited 01-22-2019 09:10 AM
If it were me the next thing I'd try is to borrow or buy another micro SD card adapter. Can you download both video and audio from the same camera that's been recorded on a full size SD card or the camera's internal memory?
01-20-2019 01:18 PM
Haven't tried that yet...though I have wondered whether I'd have trouble using other Media. If yes, then something's wrong with the camera.
Am getting a full sized SDXC to try it out.
However, I can't seem to get the camera to go back to using the internal memory. When I first did the Basic Set-Up (I just got this camera for Christmas), I selected using removable memory. Doesn't seem to want to let me move out of that. (When I take the existing SD card out, shut camera off, then turn it back on I get repeated "No Memory Card" message.) Used the large PDF User Manual to try and find out how to do that but came up with zip.
Any guidance there would help, too.