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Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

BML — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 12:04:54 GMT

I have a Canon EOS and a 300D Speedlight 430EX 111 which I left batteries the in until they leaked!

I cleaned the Speedlight battery holder but whatever I do I can find no life. Its years since I used it and can't remember if it shows life when not connected to a camera. Can I assume that I've killed it?

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:13:51 GMT

Hi BML, the speedlite doesn't have to be mounted to the camera. For the speedlite to power up. When was this speedlite purchased also how new is it.

-Demetrius

40D, 5D IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

BML — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:57:03 GMT

I think that I purchased it maybe 20 years ago. If that is way out then when they were first sold.

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 22:01:45 GMT

Is it the original 430EX not the 430EX III-RT. The 430EX III-RT was released in 2015. The original 430EX was released in 2005.

-Demetrius

40D, 5D IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

shadowsports — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 23:19:03 GMT

Canon store has no stock on anything but some transmitters.

B&H has stock. It looks like Canon is working on new flashes since all of the current 600 series are discontinued now.

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 23:19:48 GMT

Isn't the replacement to the 600EX II-RT the EL-1.

-Demetrius

40D, 5D IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

shadowsports — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:50:16 GMT

Hi Demitrius,

I suppose it is. I'm not sure why there isn't anything in between the 430 and EL-1

EL-100 $199 > 430EX-III RT $299 <?> EL-1 $1,000

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 00:57:33 GMT

Canon had the 430EX II, 580EX II, 600EX (non RT Version), 600EX-RT and the 470EX-AI as refurbished units available too. But their no longer on the online store as refurbished units.

-Demetrius

40D, 5D IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

BML — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 11:37:47 GMT

Fingers moving faster than my brain meant I gave the wrong name which is. "Speedlite 430EX 11"

My Canon EOS 300D appears to still be working so what Flash should I look for?

Re: Speedlight 430EX 111 Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 12:56:38 GMT

Hi BML do you have a budget in mind. Do you regularly shoot in low light conditions. If so certain newer speedlites won't be to provide an AF Assist Beam. The speedlites are all other wise compatible. Newer Canon speedlites such as the 90EX, EL-100, 270EX, 270EX II, 320EX, 430EX III/ III-RT won't be able to provide an AF Assist Beam. These speedlites mentioned above use "Intermittent Flashes" for AF Assist. This feature is used in the built in flash to provide an AF Assist Beam. In order for those flashes to provide AF Assist you'll need a camera released in 2007 onward. These 2007 and newer cameras have what is called the "speedlite control menu" to control flash settings from the camera body. This was the same time Canon introduced the "smart" hot shoe. Starting with the 430EX II and 580EX II. The camera body could control speedlite settings from the speedlite control menu. Speedlites released prior to the 430EX II and 580EX II Can not be controlled from the speedlite control menu on 2007 and newer cameras. The camera body will read "Speedlite is turned off or incompatible speedlite is attached".

-Demetrius

40D, 5D IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

shadowsports — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 15:49:45 GMT

@BML wrote:

Fingers moving faster than my brain meant I gave the wrong name which is. "Speedlite 430EX 11"

My Canon EOS 300D (that's 19 yrs old) appears to still be working so what Flash should I look for?

@BML,

Respectfully. You don't need to replace your flash. Its time for a new camera. Anything T8i or above.

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

BML — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 16:09:42 GMT

I'm an old duffer of 86 and I'm not going to live forever and the EOS 300 D still works!

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 16:18:28 GMT

Hello again do you have budget constraints. If so what is your budget before I recommend a speedlite that you need. Not what a professional needs and features you don't need or use.

-Demetrius

40D, 5D Mark IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

shadowsports — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 16:33:16 GMT

@BML wrote:
I'm an old duffer of 86 and I'm not going to live forever and the EOS 300 D still works!

I understand. 😀. Happy you are out there shooting. Pairing with the Kiss 300D, I'd go with the entry level EL-100. If you wanted to save some money, 3rd party like Goddox, Sunpak or Neewer. 2 of these are under $100.

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 16:37:29 GMT

If the OP goes with the EL-100 they won't have a working AF Assist Beam. Leaving the OP unable to lock focus in low light. The camera also won't take a picture unless focus has locked.

-Demetrius

40D, 5D Mark IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

shadowsports — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 16:51:27 GMT

@Demetrius,

Yes. Which is why I recommended a new camera over a flash. We have a 20 yr difference in available technologies here. I personally would stick with the onboard flash. If I did buy one to pair, I would only go with a 3rd party in this case and use manual focus, etc. The camera is the limiting factor here as you pointed out earlier.

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 17:05:20 GMT

That's if the 3rd party flash will work properly with OP's Digital Rebel/ EOS 300D. If he's using an E-TTL compatible speedlite. I found that new 3rd party speedlites sometimes don't work properly on pre-2007 camera bodies. I tied a new a 3rd party Neewer speedlite on a Canon EOS 10D years ago and it didn't work properly. It was probably how Canon implemented the speedlite control menu with new speedlites. Leaving backwards compatibility for Canon's own speedlites that don't support the speedlite control menu.

-Demetrius

40D, 5D Mark IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

BML — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 17:50:12 GMT

I resent dumping equipment especially stuff that I've used from when I took a Motorcaravan round the coast of the UK coast to write a guide to sites with a view of the sea. Would any of the following fit?

CANON SPEEDLITE 177A FLASHGUN (35MM) £19.00

CANON SPEEDLITE 200E FLASHGUN (35MM) £20.00

CANON SPEEDLITE 300TL FLASHGUN £29.00

CANON SPEEDLITE 550EX FLASHGUN £49.00

CANON SPEEDLITE 600EX-RT £179.00

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

deebatman316 — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 18:28:35 GMT

Any Canon EX/ EL speedlite will work with your camera. The 550EX and 600EX-RT are compatible with your camera which uses E-TTL flash metering. Note these speedlites especially the 600EX-RT are quite large units. They may also be too heavy to hold on your camera because your camera is small. In comparison to the speedlites you mentioned above. Older E, EZ and TL speedlites are not compatible with your camera. They use A-TTL or TTL flash metering which is only compatible on EOS 35mm film cameras.

-Demetrius

40D, 5D Mark IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II USM, EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

430EX III-RT & 600EX II-RT

Re: Speedlite 430EX II Left batteries in until they leaked!

BML — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 11:57:51 GMT

Many thanks all for your help.