topic Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra in Professional Photo Printers

how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

ninhnguyen2017 — Mon, 08 Jan 2018 20:04:12 GMT

Hi,

I need help on how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 for mac ios Sierra. I've been reading from this forum but have not found the answer yet.

If you know how, please walk me throug.

Thanks in advance,

Ninh

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 00:07:53 GMT

What software are you printing from?

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

ninhnguyen2017 — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 06:50:03 GMT

Hi,

Thanks for your response. I am using photoshop cc with canon print studio. The print came out not the same as my screen. I also print same image with epson xp800 and epson 9600 and get the same print out as my screen.

The epson printer driver allowed color mangament to turn off. So please show how to turn off the canon pixma pro 100 color management.

Thanks for your help

Ninh

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:13:36 GMT

Hi Ninh. Print Studio Pro handles that setting automatically.

What paper are you using? Can you post a screen shot of your PSP settings?

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

sandrapjb — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:43:22 GMT

Hi John,

See if you can help me find the Printer's color management in my photoshop setting dialog box, please?

I have all right:

- working space in Adobe RGB (image profile in RGB as well)

- photoshop managing the colors

- a calibrated monitor

- Canon paper

- ICC canon paper profile

When I use the "printer manages the color" to print, the colors come out very close to what is on the monitor. When I try the paper's ICC the photo print gets a magenta cast (actually all colors get messed up). I understand that I have to disable the printer's color management, but I can't find where to click. All dialog boxes I found on the internet are different than mine. even if Mac disable automatically when you set the profile, I should be able to see it, right? I tried to print the photo out of Lightroom and indicates the same thing - and the colors are off the same way.

Thank you,

Sandra

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 00:02:06 GMT

Hi Sandra. lets see if we can work this out.

1. when you go into System Preferences->Printers & Scanners do you see this:

You don't want to see Bonjour printer. If you do click the plus sign to add a printer and wait for IJ Series to show up.

2. If you click Options & Supplies do you see ths:

If you don't see 16.20.0.0 go to the Canon site and download the latest driver. If necessary repeat step 1. The Bonjour driver is not a Canon driver, it is an Apple driver and it doesn't take advantage of the Canon driver features.

If you configure Lightroom to use an ICC profile and select Print Settings do you get this:

You can see that canon Color Matching is turned off and the whole selection option is grayed out - you can't select the wrong option.

If you configure Lightroom to have the profile Managed by Printer and select Print Settings you should see this:

Here you can see Canon Color Matching is selected. You would then go into the media dropdown and select the paper you want if you are using Canon paper.

In Photoshop it is similar. Select Print Settings and you get the same driver image.

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

sandrapjb — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 23:17:40 GMT

John,

YOU ARE MY SAVIOR!!!!!! I was almost giving up by now!!!

I downloaded the 18.10.0.0 (couldn't find the 16.20.0.0) and worked!!!!!!!! Now I have soooooo many options in my print dialog box!!!! The colors are perfect!

I can't thank you enough!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

I'm so happy!!!!

all best,

Sandra

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 23:29:12 GMT

You are very welcome. I will have to see what the 18 driver is. Maybe it’s an update.

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 01:11:35 GMT

Hi Sandra. Can you tell me where yo found the 18.10.0.0 driver. I am not finding it.

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

sandrapjb — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:21:28 GMT

Here John:

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/professional-large-format-printers/professional-inkjet-printers/imageprograf-pro-1000?tab=drivers_downloads

Thank you again!

sandra

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:26:54 GMT

Thanks.

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

TCampbell — Sat, 10 Feb 2018 23:48:24 GMT

@ninhnguyen2017 wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for your response. I am using photoshop cc with canon print studio. The print came out not the same as my screen. I also print same image with epson xp800 and epson 9600 and get the same print out as my screen.
The epson printer driver allowed color mangament to turn off. So please show how to turn off the canon pixma pro 100 color management.
Thanks for your help

Ninh

I own an X-Rite ColorMunki and I profiled my printer (and my monitor)... but one thing to be careful of is the color-cast of any light in the room when you evaluate your prints.

My office lamps are "warm white" (which means they have a yellow/orange color cast). I _also_ have a special lamp that is "daylight" balanced light and if I don't evaluate the prints under the correct light, it'll look like my Pro 10 botched the color (it got the color correct... it's just the illusion created by the lighting.)

That aside... how you disable in-printer color management depends on what software you use to print. Normally if you use Print Studio Pro then it's controlled via the "Print Settings" tab. If yo use Lightroom to print, then it's controlled in the "Print" module and at the bottom of the right margin in the "Print Job" section, there's a "Color Management" section.

You have to have _some_ type of color management. If you do not pick "In Printer" (or "Automatic" which basically means the printer deals with it) then you need a color profile.

If you installed Canon's software, then they install color profile for their Canon ink with all of their various Canon papers. That's great if you are using their inks & papers... but If you run any other paper or any other ink than those profiles aren't valid. You would need a way to build a color profile for your printer/ink/paper combination.

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Sun, 11 Feb 2018 04:29:06 GMT

Hi Ninh. Print Studio Pro should handle color management control for you behind the scenes. If you are on a Mac and choose the application to control color then color management should be turned off automatically. If you are on a PC and choose the application to control color then you need to turn offf color management in the driver yourself. What operating system are you using.

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

ninhnguyen2017 — Sun, 11 Feb 2018 06:37:36 GMT

Hi John,

I used Mac Sierra High OS. Even with Canon Print Studio, the print is still not the same as the display.

I will use the refill ink for my pro 100 printer and need to profile the ink. I owned the Spyder5Pro and SpyderPrint but do not know how to disable the color management of the pixma pro 100 when print the calibration strip.

I have not find any one include Canon people to show how to turn it off for Mac Sierra.

It seems to me this is too hard for Canon to fix their driver for Mac.

Thanks for your response.

Ninh

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Sun, 11 Feb 2018 13:46:11 GMT

Hi Ninh. Take a look at Message 6 above. If you select Photoshop manage color you need to select an ICC profile for the paper and color management is turn off and grayed out so you cannot change it. If you want printer to manage color then the Canon color is selected. It’s not grayed out so you can choose ColorSync. Same happens in Lightroom. The Canon driver for macOS does it automatically.

See this video from DataColor.

http://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/support-old/customer-support/learn-more-about-colormanagement/

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

BarneyH — Sat, 26 May 2018 11:48:29 GMT

I am really struggling with switching off color management using macOS, using Indesign CC and Pixma Pro 10S

Yes, I agree that Photoshop and Lightroom switch off color management when passing through to the driver. Neither colorsync nor Canon Color Matching come up as options (it's all greyed out) - and color management works.

But, when using Indesign, or indeed color profiling software, when one goes to the color management dialogue in the canon driver, all the options remain available.

(NB in Indesign in the print dialogue is "Let Indesign determine colors" is being chosen - in fact the option "let printer determine colors" doesn't appear)

So I need to find a way to FORCE the macOS canon driver to switch off color management when printing from Indesign - but I can't! Hence the print is getting double color managed...

The same RGB photo when printed in Photoshop is color managed and prints accurately. But when that photo is imported into Indesign and printed, the colors from Indesign are totally off. Both applications show the photo on the screen in the right way.

Help!!!

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Sat, 26 May 2018 11:51:42 GMT

I don’t use that software, so not sure if this will help

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/color.html

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

BarneyH — Sat, 26 May 2018 11:56:53 GMT

Thank you! Yes.

And indeed one of the steps it says is : “switch off color management in the printer driver”

Hence my question.

Does anybody know how to do this on a mac?

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

jrhoffman75 — Sat, 26 May 2018 12:01:51 GMT

Since when LR switches of color management it selects ColorSync and prevents user choice I would guess you would select ColorSync and then choose paper ICC profile in OneDesign.

Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

BarneyH — Sat, 26 May 2018 12:14:33 GMT

Yes, I hoped that would be the case.

Unfortunately not - Colorsync seems to apply additional color management. Have tried with automatic profile and paper profile.

So the challenge remains how to switch off color management entirely, as I believe one can do in the windows based version of the driver, given the host printing software isn't doing it. Strange, given that Adobe manages to achieve this with Photoshop and Lightroom, but doesn't with Indesign...